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There seems to be every reason for people with auto immune diseases to
try Miracle-Mineral-Supplement as there is evidence it can overcome immune disfunction thus not
only correcting immune response so the body is no longer damaged by inflammation but also boosting repair to the damaged structures by stimulating phagocytosis.
Possible diseases helped are Lupus , Arthritis, Inflammatory bowel disease, Multiple Sclerosis and others and in fact all diseases will benefit from such a response
What is more this could be achieved at a relatively low dose with no need for adverse symptoms or any toxicity. Even unactivated chlorite will have this effect
though activated may have superior effects.
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1999017787&IA=WO1999017787&DISPLAY=DESC
This also could explain why Miracle-Mineral-Supplement works on burns removing inflammation and stimulating repair. Id like to see some reasonable reponse to this. Note no damaging effects on the cells was noticed and there is no evidence of significant long term effects from any reports I have seen at the intake required
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This is a reply to # 1,193,727Hey Jon, interesting information. Wonder if the unactivated is as effective as the activated supposedly is. I'm still skeptical, because at first it was because it killed pathogens, and now your saying that it strengthens the immune system. I would like to believe that, but it is still at a guessing stage. I'm almost tempted to go in and get a blood screen done, take it myself, and prove that it doesn't work!
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This is a reply to # 1,193,734Well actually Humble always said it did both and this would explain why it seems
that even though there may be not enough ClO2 getting into the blood to kill all pathogens this is still happening, presumably due to the added immune stimulation
So I am saying it does both
I think the activated is more effective over a shorter period but can cause more adverse symptoms as a result - Re: Autoimmune diseases biosafe
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,193,734Hey Jon,
This was a patent from 1997 that was never finalised, (like 1000's of others using sodium chlorite, ClO2)due to fact that they did not work.
Understand the chemistry it is based on is removing the blood from a person to treat!
As far as burns go, there are now bandages made with ClO2 impregnated into them at very small amounts to combat infection.
Burns, scalds and large areas of skin depletion are high infection rate areas.
But beware I have the scar to prove ClO2 itself will burn the skin.
Bruce.- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,193,741Hi Bruce
I was beginning to think you had deserted us :o(
Reread the patent, you are wrong, the chlorite was administered intravenously
It did not work? I dont know where you get this from
also the company still has the product on their site and I agree it is odd why it is not in use perhaps it is still under trials or has been suppressed.
If you leave it on the skin it will burn that is why you wash it off
also you dont use it activated you spray Miracle-Mineral-Supplement on undiluted then wash it off within 5 minutes to avoid burning- Re: Autoimmune diseases biosafe
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This is a reply to # 1,193,766
Sorry, I should rephrase what I have said, the previous history that the Science is based on was out of body treating of blood.
ClO2 has been proved to damage the red blood cells.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3429416
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This is a reply to # 1,193,791My simple reply to this is -
There is not enough dosage to cause damage and no damage has been seen in the human trial below also no-one has reported this problem so it's not a significant risk
Potential downward trends were noted in the following categories : macrophage intracellular TNF-α secretion, and a decrease in the number of circulating CD14+/DR+ cells. It has been reporte that immune paralysis results when the number of circulating CD14+/DR+ cells decreases to such an extent as to reach a threshold value. No obvious changes were noted in T-cell PHA activation values or HIV load as measured by the HIV bDNA assay (most of the patients had no detectable HIV thoughout the study). Results of the RBC survival studies showed no evidence for hemolysis in response to the treatment
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1999017787&IA=WO1999017787&DISPLAY=DESC
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This is a reply to # 1,193,727To date, nobody has been able to prove this auto-immune theory.
Current mainstream meds are based on that auto-immune theory, and only work for about 30% of those who use them, and even then, many of those folks STILL progress. The problem jon, are nerves and myelin scarring.
Will Miracle-Mineral-Supplement dissolve scarring? Will Miracle-Mineral-Supplement rebuild nerves?- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,193,882Maybe it will help yes. I dont think anyone can really lose by trying
unless you can think of a better treatment out there and if you can this is still worth a go as far as I can see.
The fact is if it helps inflammation and stimulates healing with phagocytosis there is a good chance that some healing will take place or at least halt progression.
There are problems with other drug treatments and it explains this in the document
this seems to be a very different approach. It is not suppression and doesnt have significant side effects at effective doses. But the importance of very cautious increases needs to be emphasized. I have increased mine now to 11 drops of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and have had no nausea, not bad diarrhea and no other noticable bad reactions but I have built it up over 3 weeks and I probably can expect to continue for another 2 months or so or until I feel it has had the desired effect
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,193,892jon,
There are many products out there that probably do the same thing that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement supposedly does. At least the longterm effects of these other treatments is more known. Dont think for a second that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is attempting to do something that hasnt been tried. Can it help? Perhaps. But the premise behind it isnt anything new. Should folks who have these 'autoimmune' diseases try it? That depends. If one is in a wheelchair and cant deal with diahrrea or vomitting, I would say no. Too risky. Should one try it based off of the ridiculous cure claims behind it. Absolutely not. There is only one person I've read about with MS that has had miraculous results, and her story changes daily. Is that enough proof for me? Dont make me laugh!- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,193,918Of course you can modify it to suit the individual. I dont think you have to suffer diarrhea and you definately don't need to vomit. Are there any other things out there that can do exactly the same thing? I haven't seen them, but of course people
must come to there own conclusions. And how is it too risky to soil yourself, believe me I've had my fair share of this with UC and I'm not in a wheelchair but I dont think it has to happen and it hasn't to me yet on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and I'm one who you'd think would have the worst problem. You may need to take higher doses to treat acute infections but not so with chronic diseases that are reasonably stable. If people are realistic and don't think it will instantly make them 100% better I think they will not be dissappointed and will not regret trying it- Re: Autoimmune diseases #97461
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This is a reply to # 1,193,941I guess what you feel Miracle-Mineral-Supplement does will determine if you think there is anything available that will do the same thing.
Cure all diseases known to mankind? You're right jon, there's nothing else out there that will do that.- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,193,997You have a point, Jon. There is no alternative treatment for autoimmune. Do you think that it will really help?
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This is a reply to # 1,193,997why am I scraping the barrel?
It seems to me anybody that believes all the bs surrounding Miracle-Mineral-Supplement are the ones scraping the barrel.- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,194,008Because you're just making ridiculous remarks.
I've said all I can if you don't want to use it whatsoever fine
If you don't want to use it because Humbles overhyped it I think thats a bad decision
Theres enough evidence for me independant of Humble
You don't even have to buy Humbles stuff, you can use Bruces if you like its all the same. What it does is what it does and thats it. Try it or don't try it
If you don't you'll never know though.
It can be used safely at low dose with no risks at all why would anyone not try
I for one dont want to spend my life with a chronic disease and if there is any chance of geting rid of it i am going to take it- Re: Autoimmune diseases #97461
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,194,017
I've already tried it jon. It made me sick(er)
You want to read hype? Here ya go:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1194005#inice try jon, the comment about the chronic disease.
All that does is show your gullibility.
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This is a reply to # 1,194,026I know you have and I am saying you don't have to take enough to cause any of those problems and it can still help. Exactly what amount did you take and how fast did you increase. You can also take it unactivated and it will still be effective.
There is a way- Re: Autoimmune diseases #97461
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This is a reply to # 1,194,031Hi jon,
Sorry, I had to leave for work.
I started with one drop, and worked my way up to 10 over a period of about a week. On the second day of 10 drops I went downhill quickly. Yes, it scared me. People with MS scare easily though, especially when that fright comes in the form of an exascerbation. That was when I realized that using an unknown like Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for an unknown like MS wasnt very smart. But that was ME.
Jon, you will and should do what you feel is right, and you're intelligent enough to know the difference.
In your case Jon, I really feel you are trying to reach out and help, and for that I appreciate you, I really do.- Re: Autoimmune diseases jonsher_uk
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This is a reply to # 1,194,267Thanks for that. I don't think you did wrong to assume you could increase in such a way as back then not so many people had tried it especially for MS, but I am thinking a much more cautious approach would help. The release of toxins can be very overwhelming to the body and in your case your body couldn't handle it.
So I'm thinking of an approach where you stay well below the 10 drops that caused a problem say 5 to 6 for a longer period say over a month then it could be increased a little or move up a little more . I dont think this is necessary with MS though as long as the immune system is being modified and symptoms are improving
I say this to anyone who is having problems with it. Dont assume more is better.
Also frequency is a factor. Although I am at 12 drops now after over 4 weeks use I still have no major problem and my colitis is still controlled with no blood loss and not bad diarrhea. I am going to increase to 15 drops as Amato did once a day but no more as I feel this will kill the harmful bacteria that have invaded the damaged bowel wall and at the same time boost repair by turning off inflammation response and stimulating cleanup and repair by boosted phagocytosis after one week or so I will drop to 6 likely if I see good improvement.I think this may not be necessary but since I am having no problems I will try but if I do I have antidotes ready
I fully understand your reasons for not using it though and I respect that but
for me the promise is good and I have no alternative as other treatments that may work are still stuck in the medical system maybe forever
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