Welcome Val, I am so glad to see you.
First let me say that you have been through quite a lot, and you have experienced trauma. Trauma alters ones life in a second and we are never the same again. I fully understand your fear of the possibility of another surgery.
What concerns me most, is the panic, anxiety, and now the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder that is driving you. I believe once you have this under control, your healing will be facilitated. I did go back and read all the posts and found O's posts and links to be quite good. She seems to have an understanding both of Estrogen Dominance and panic. And yes, hormone imbalance and panic go hand in hand. My personal view is that panic and anxiety involves the emotions and the body, and therefore, both must be dealt with. It is a combination of the effects of trauma and poor nutrition. Depending on the person, even though proper nutrition will by all means make you feel better, the initial fear needs to be dealt with. And sometimes because of the trauma we have undergone, we have lost our perception of "safety." We must find and claim that again.
Yet, this is not an issue of saying, "look at things differently," "relax," and so forth because it is impossible for someone with this condition to do that. Sometimes we must take baby steps.
What I don't want you to do is to sink into despair, leaving the forums and totally isolating yourself.
Let me address the panic side of the issue first. Do you have anybody to talk to, to bare your soul to, your fears? A therapist of some sort? Sometimes we need to do this not only to relieve ourselves of the terrible burden that we are carrying but also so that someone can put things into perspective for us.
"What if" thinking is very common with us. "What if I need to have another surgery?" What if I get cancer? Most of the time our "What If's" are never realized. They are just our fears, our insecurity, our not feeling "safe."
Now, getting to your symptoms, has your thyroid been checked? An unbalanced thyroid can go hand in hand with Estrogen Dominance.
And I will tell you what you requested.. "Estrogen Dominance does not lead to doom." Please believe me. It is so very interesting how those of us who suffer from panic and anxiety also tend to analyze ourselves. We know that it is fear that is driving us, yet we are not able to escape its tight grip. You said it perfectly right here.
"I am just like the little kid who is terrified and needs to be convinced that there are no monsters under the bed. There ARE no monsters, never will be, but believes in them, and can be shown that they don't exist."
And eventually that child realizes that there really were no monsters and goes to sleep feeling safe and secure. That will be you Val. You will get there.
"I need to grow up and face reality, but I am caught in a cycle of fear and panic."
No. Don't put any demands on yourself. You are fine as you are. First and foresmost, love yourself for who and what you are at this very moment. Chances are, part of the panic and anxiety are due to others demands or perceived ideas of who you should be. You are you. And you are perfect now. Through loving yourself, you will grow to feel safe and secure, and see the world in a different light. It can be done. Not overnight. It is a growing experience. But it can most certainly be done.
Let me give you link to follow. This will help with your blood sugar and you may be surprised at how much better you feel.
http://www.hypoglycemia.asn.au/articles/hypoglycemic_diet.html
Another thing I highly recommend is that you not eat soy.
And take Trace Minerals. Again, you may be surprised how much better they make you feel.
I am going to add one more thing.
The Emotional Freedom Technique corrects the disrputed energy flow in our bodies caused by trauma or illness. It consists of tapping certain points in the body and it does work. However, it is something that must be practiced. And when you feel fear, immediately tap and notice the relief that it gives you. If only for a little while. With practice it gets better.
And let me give you a link that will guide you through the tapping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vku0jPpOlt0
Meditation is also good. Guided meditations are wonderful. If you are not familiar with these meditations I will pull up some for you.
One thing that people with panic disorder fear most is that their future is leading to their doom, to their death. I am here to tell you that it is not so. If you can voice your fears and tell yourself that "it is highly unlikely" you will be doing a wonderfull exercise and taking a very important step in becoming confident and shedding your fear. Remember, baby steps. It takes time.
When you are fearful or experiencing anxiety, try to pinpoint what the root thought is. What is the root fear? Don't try to resolve it right now, Just be aware of it. The solution will come.
And lastly, you said it before, the child in you is very afraid. Here is an exercise. Be the adult and love that child. Conciously, visualize that child and love her. You will be surprised how this exercise will facilitate healing.
Healing does not happen overnight, but it happens. O gave you quite a few informative links that I cannot improve on. Start there. And actually, you might want to visit the Ask Trapper Forum, iodine might very well be beneficial for you and he is the perfect peson to advise you there.
Whatever you do, please don't read anything negative in the posts you read. Look at the positive. There is hope. Please don't give up.
Hugs,
Luella
Val,
I am going to tell you something that may surprise you, and it is actually good news. You are not as "different" as you may think. Actually, everything that you have said is very common among people with panic and anxiety. This is what we say. This is how we think. And we feel hopeless.
I was exactly where you were at a good 20 years ago, although with different issues. Yet. I had the same thought pattern as you. I have found that we all have a very common thread and our thinking is identical.
Another thing that I have found is that the seeds of anxiety are planted in childhood, only to blossom later in life, usually somewhere around our 30's. Some type of tragedy or trauma is usually the trigger. And the reason for the development of this condition is our never receiving "love" from our parents or guardians. From their never accepting us, from their expecting us to be "perfect." We were never good enough. Your story is a very common one and it is, in fact, my story. "You want love? Jump through that hoop for me! Sorry........ not good enough!" You are right. We were never safe to begin with. No wonder our lives are wracked in fear.
One thing every human in the world needs is love. We are all born with the need to be loved and accepted. When a child does not receive this love and acceptance it can affect their entire life. A baby comes into this world with a blank slate. It is so very important what we write on that slate, as that is what forms that baby's future. Feelings of worthlessness begin in our formative years. I have one memory that is etched in my heart. It is a vow I took when I was three years old while comforting my baby doll after a horrendous beating. In the midst of crying, I stood up and took an oath. That oath was that I would never treat my children the way I was being treated. And I never did. In fact, whenever I had a difficult decision to make, I always thought of what my parents would have done, and I did the opposite.
The good news, and there is good news, please believe me. is that you can get that self esteem by looking at things differently. By consciously loving yourself. Life can be wonderful. There was a time that I wouldn't have thought this possible, but it is very true. If nothing else, just trust me. Don't give up on the EFT. It takes practice and in your case, you may have a lot of layers to remove. Keep doing it. Meditation. Think of who you would like to be, what would you like your life to be like. Did you daydream as a little girl? Daydream again. Feel the joy, feel the emotion. You will be surprised how your life will change. Your parents are not there to take it away from you anymore. You are grown up. Just realize this.
And I do realize that the psychological damage caused can follow into adulthood and through your entire life. Don't let it. Because the truth is..... You deserve to be loved and to be happy. And that love does not come from anything or anyone outside yourself. That love comes from within you. Then you will attract the situations and people that will enhance your life and give you that love. But that is only a reflection of what is within. Again.... Just trust me. Loving and accepting yourself for who and what you are this very moment. It will also make it possible for you to reach out and freely give love to those in need without fear of any repurcussions or rejection. Because the truth is, it doesn't matter if people accept, reject or even trash your love. What is important is that you love unconditionally, and it begins with loving yourself. Val, just trust me in all this. This may be so new to you, it may seem impossible for you to analyze, so just trust me. And you may think it is an impossibility for you to achieve. It's not. Just trust me in all I say. No judgments.
As I have stated before and firmly believe, panic, anxiety, bipolar, anorexia, bulimia, etc., none of these are mental illnesses. My firm belief is that they are emotional illnesses, coupled with nutritional deficiencies. And much of the time if we feel worthless and don't care about ourselves, we certainly are not going to take care of our bodies. However, even when our bodies are nutritionally healthy, if our very souls have been scarred, it is necessary for that to heal too. Panic, anxiety, etc. are more complicated than many people give them credit for. That is why healing encompasses our spirit, mind and body.
Let me address some things you said:
I am afraid to read O's links. I have done so much research, and in every article and person I talk to, I learn about all the things E-dominance can cause (uterine cancer, breast cancer, tumors, endometriomas-which I had, fibroids bad enough for surgery, etc) that I simply cannot handle it anymore.
These are all "What If's," "what could be." They are not your reality now. Chances are, they will not occur. When these thoughts come to mind, and it is very normal for someone with panic and anxiety to have these thoughts which are actually magnified and devastating, just notice it, and let it go. And say to yourself, "This is highly unlikely" because in essence, it is just a fear of something that "might" happen. And yes, I realize that you have never felt safe in your entire life, and this is the reason for your panic. Actually, it is a very normal reaction. We tend to think that a lot of our responses and reactions are not normal, that we are not normal, yet with what we have been through they are extremely normal, and we are very normal. What we must do is get to the root of our fears and deal with them. Sometimes even facing them and, yes, that can be quite scary, but once done, we are the victors.
It is not just the forums that I feel isolated from. My real life is isolated. I have lost what friends I had (either through my fault or theirs), my husband is almost never home, all I have is my cat. I don't know how to change this. I have worked on this with several therapists, and to no avail. (long story)
The feeling of isolation goes hand in hand with a panic disorder. I remember it well. It is one of the worst feelings one can experience. This is also the time when you find out who your real friends are. I found out that I had none. But I also found that as I went along I made new friends. One thing that is certain through life friends come and go in many ways. I wouldn't classify the departure as anybody's "fault." Sometimes there is hurt involved, yes. Just bless them and let them go. As for your husband, has he had your condition explained to him? This is also very hard on spouses and family members and sometimes they do not know how to deal with it. No matter what the situation, right now concentrate on yourself. Everything else will work out one way or another. In time, but it will work out.
My therapist says part of my isolation is my subconcious trying to make my parent's happy, wanting their love, because they didn't really want me to be happy (sick, right?).
Nope, not sick. Again what you are doing is normal. You are still seeking their approval. I did the same thing. We want our parents to be proud of us, and this reaches all the way into adulthood. But sometimes it never happens. And at some point we have to accept it. Love them anyway, but accept it and move on. Hard to do, but it must be done.
"Life is out to get you". And..."it is better to expect the worst, because then you are prepared. If you expect the best, then you will be shocked with bad news, and that is harder"
This is so very interesting. My mother used to say this exact same thing. I'm here to tell you this is not true. Expect the best and it will come your way. That is not to say that there will not be hurts and hearbreaks. Unfortunately, this is also life, but the outcome depends on how we deal with them. What was that song...... "I beg your pardon, I never promised you a Rose Garden." Drat! When going through grief, heartbreak, or even sadness I don't believe we should ignore it or pretend to be happy. I believe we need to experience that feeling and deal with it, even though it may be quite painful at the time. Suppressing feelings of grief, heartbreak and even sadness causes them to be bottled up in our system. They need an outlet. Sometimes that outlet becomes panic and other emotional disorders. God gave us tears for a reason.
Unfortunately, finding a good doctor is sometimes very difficult. May I suggest you find a Naturopath that would lead you through the healing process naturally? You may be surprised at the results.
I also use sea salt. However trace minerals are very important, especially with someone suffering from panic and what you are going through. Yes, take these besides the sea salt.
You are not being the least ungrateful. Please do not worry about it. Your replies are actually very normal for a person suffering from panic, anxiety, depression, etc. We tend to think that we are not normal and so different, yet we are very normal and exactly the same as everyone else. The only difference is that our emotions, thinking, and fear are highly magnified and tend to disrupt our lives. We see everybody else as "perfect" yet, everybody has insecurities, just as you and I do. Once we realize this, a big part of the battle is won.
Val, don't give up. 44 is not the end of your life. And yes, you can get well. You just need to find the right solutions. And you will. And when you do, it will all "click."
I would strongly advise that you find a Naturopath and go from there. And whatever you do, please do not give up. This is just an illness. But healing is around the corner. Believe me.
Hugs,
Luella
Hi Val,
Start here in looking for a Naturopath.
Although I could find nowhere that Serzone interferes with progesterone, It is highly likely that the antidepressant and anxiety meds you are taking are actually complicating the matter and making the issue worse. These meds have side effects that doctors don't tell you about. Hence, my suggestion to see a Naturopath. They should be able to help you with everything.
As for the best brand of Trace Minerals, that would be from Utopia Silver. Put in Code LR001 in order to get a 15% discount on items not on sale.
Under "Immune Support" I recommend "Liquid Life."
Val, start here. Please let me know how you are doing and don't hesitate to drop in for support or to ask questions.
Whatever you do, don't give up. There is always an answer.
Hugs,
Luella
Hi Val,
There was a time when nobody understood me either. I fully understand. Actually, if you knew me back when, you would see that I am the poster child for panic and anxiety. And there is indeed hope. I know it's hard for you to realize this. I once thought it an impossibility also.
A good naturopath should be able to take every issue you have into consideration and go from there. And yes, let us hope that you do find the perfect one immediately. When I finally realized my healing, it was due to the right supplements. And actually, it made my withdrawal from antidepressants all the easier, because I realized that I didn't need them any longer. And no, I do not advise that you go off your meds right now at all. I do realize that you would go over the edge. Now is not the time. But the time will come. Again, trust me. Somebody once told me this very same thing and I thought they were crazy. Because you see, at that time, those meds were my lifeline. But one day you will be able to let go. I mean it.
My Psychopharmacologist is very good for what he does, but swears up and down that the Serzone and other drugs I take for anxiety have noting to do with my hormones. Well, I did some research and found that Serzone, in a case study, in the Journal of Clinical Psychopharmacy showed that Serzone probably RAISED estrogen in a woman. I faxed this to the doc and he said, "you are right". Although he still wouldn't completely commit that this could happen to me.
I have had the same experience. The sad part is that we are not told all the side effects and even if we find them out ourselves, doctors will not own up to them. Yet, at this point, I'm not sure it's wise to reduce the dosage on your own. Did the doctor help you go down? Are you feeling worse?
The minerals that I referred you to are also liquid. But yes, I certainly do understand how precious money is these days. It is up to you, and I'm really not pressuring you. Really, just that Utopia Silver's trace minerals are colloidal minerals. By all means, do not extend yourself and finish what you have on hand. This is just a suggestion for the future. But if you do order, remember the Code LR001 for a 15% discount on items not on sale. This will save you money regardless.
I understand your discouragement and exhaustion with regard to seeing yet another health practitioner. If I were ill, that would be my first stop. A Naturopath.
With regard to not getting email notifications on Curezone, I have no idea. My suggestion would be to go to the webmaster's forum and hopefully you will get the help you need there.
Take care Val. I think you are on the right track.
Hugs,
Luella
Hi Val,
By all means, yes, take those minerals. I am just sold on Utopia Silver because they have done so much for me and actually my pets too. I just want everybody to share in it.
Actually, Ginseng helps the hormones and quite a few other conditions. Other benefits of Ginseng found in Tony's Rose Laurel Herbal Guide are:
Ginseng is nutritionally beneficial for the immune system and long term energy. It nourishes the circulatory system and enhances mental alertness and stamina.
And these are White Willow's benefits, also found in Tony's Rose Laurel Herbal Guide:
White willow benefits the stomach, kidneys, bowels, and intestines. It works like a mild and natural analgesic which is gentle on the stomach.
And actually, White Willow is the herb that is used in aspirin.
Normally, I don't recommend any over the counter remedies. However, I am hesitant to tell you what herbs can be used for pain because of the antidepressants you are taking. I would hate for anything to interact with them. Actually, EFT is wonderful at ridding oneself of headaches. However, if you can't stand the headache and aspirin in your only alternative, then by all means take it.
Have a great evening.
Hugs,
Luella
Hi Val,
A naturopath will deal with every aspect of your health, including hormones.
Unfortunately, and I do mean unfortunately, doctors will not recognize natural alternatives, thinking that conventional methods are the only answer. And many will go to great lengths to discredit alternative methods.
From personal experience, I will be the first to stand up and say they are wrong. When finally healed, and actually, from quite a few conditions, I was healed by natural methods.
Don't despair. Make a few phone calls and see what you come up with. It never hurts to get information.
Hugs,
Luella
Bless your heart Val. Not to worry, you are not driving me crazy.
The best advice I can give you is that while on the phone with them explain your situation and how you have been through countless doctors and need an answer. That you neither have the money nor time to waste. The person at the other end of the phone should understand. Ask questions, whatever questions you need answers to and by their reply you should be able to guage as to whether it is worth your time and effort to go see them. Of prime importance is that you feel comfortable and develop trust. Don't be afraid to spend as much time as you need on the phone. You re seeking answers and that is perfectly reasonable.
Guess what? Now I'm the one not getting email notifications. I have to come in and check my posts now too. That is the reason I took so long to respond to your last post. And I apologize.
Hugs,
Luella
Hi Val,
Yes, it is inconvenient hunting down posts. LOL!
Chances are the doctor himself/herself will not talk to you, but the receptionist or may be an assistant will be able to give you information. You should be able to tell by their demeanor and the answers you get if that is the right one. It should give you a feel of the general atmosphere. Go with your instincts.
Hugs,
Luella