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same thing going on here since i left the last time, it's been 2 or 3 months and the same old thing is still going on... strange.
well, from what i gathered in my interactions and correspondence, i do not feel that bruce or humble are deliberately trying to deceive anyone. i think they are both convinced of their point---they both REALLY beleive that what they know is the right position. they both feel they are trying to help others from sickness or dying.they both believe they are doing the right thing.
bruce is saying do not take mms or you will get poisoned and or die
and jim humble is saying take mms so you will not be sick or die from disease.
--kinda odd, isnt it?.
i truly feel both are trying to help and save others from the way they see chlorine dioxide.
i will not pick sides and argue--- but i do have my own view b/c of my personal experience with said mms --- ---for me, mms has given me my health back to a degree that i can take care of my children in a way i have not been able to in years!!! --- i have never had anything work this well in such a short period of time. so for me, mms is a great gift and blessing to my entire family.
i find it very sad to think that this kind of gift can be taken away from some other family with a sick mother --( someone else with a situation like me) with mms being reported to officials, and trying to stop it, etc. that would just be sad . so i am grateful i found it when i did.
i did not get sicker, i got better!
also, i have not had a herpes break out since jan. 08-- almost 4 months-- where before i had 2 or 3 breakouts a month! and this cannot be a placebo! mms did that for me (and my husband)!!
i am indebted to jim humble for my new found health. i would have paid 100,000 dollars (or more if i had it)for that bottle of mms--- you cannot put a price tag on freedom from herpes and freedom from debilitating fatigue---
so i actually hope jim humble is getting some monetary gain from sharing his experience with mms! why shouldnt he? i am indebted to him for without his book and the mms i would still be fighting with herpes and debilitating fatigue!
i am so greatful i found mms. if i didnt take mms myself, i would be very confused about it after reading everything on the web (both pro and con) -- i probably would have been scared away from trying it too. so i am very glad i started it before all this craziness.
so in summary, if there is one thing i cannot argue with, it is my own direct experience.
ananda7- Re: i am thankful shortangle2
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This is a reply to # 1,161,216I'm glad you're happy with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and feel that it works. Don't worry, you can always get it direct from an industrial source lots of companies make it. Same stuff, and it's dirt cheap, no need to give Jim Humble $100,000.
- Re: i am thankful - Have you been Te... #89939
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This is a reply to # 1,161,216Have you been tested to prove you've been cured of Herpes and that it will never return? So far your the first person I've seen say they've been cured of anything. Quit interesting. Most people just say they feel better but never state that they haver been cured of anything. Most people have indicated they will not tell a doctor that they are taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I don't understand why if it's cured them of something.
- my testing for herpes- ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,318on testing for herpes--
i was told by my doctor that about half of the population tests positive in a blood test for herpes virus antigen. so usually, (or atleast in my case)the way a diagnosis for herpes was made was from a culture of the blister itself, not a blood test.
a herpes 1 (oral herpes) or herpes 2 (genital herpes)diagnosis is based on where the lesion is obvioulsy located. a culture is taken from the site of the lesion. i was told that often an antigen blood test that identifies hsv or differentiates between any of the herpes viruses are not always necessary, given that a culture of the blister tells you if you have HSV-- and the location will obviously tell you which you have, 1 or 2, etc.
i was diagnosed about 18 years ago with herpes 2 from a culture of genital lesion, not from a blood test. i also had herpes 1 (oral herpes)prior to that --got blisters on my mouth and/or nose.
so, if i have no longer get any more herpes blisters/lesions to culture than how would i muster up a test?
maybe i will ask my doctor when i see him some more questions about the herpes antigen blood test and see if that will provide some kind of reliable proof (if my insurance will pay for it). perhaps once you have had herpes you will alwys show an antigen in the blood for it-- but i really do not know for sure-- these are the kinds of questions i may ask.
yet, the proof that i am herpes free, for me, is that i no longer get any herpes breakouts, neither oral or genital... and i had them like clockwork prior to mms.
thanks for inquiring
ps. and no, i do not have any idea yet, if hsv will ever return, BUT IT SURE HAsNT YET --and i have even been OFF mms for about 1 and 1/2 months (i went off of it to bulk up on vit c and other antioxidants- and i thought it would be interesting to see would happen with the hsv if i did not take mms--- plus i was getting tired of taking it, and i wanted a break). i think i took it from dec. 31 2007 until sometime in LATE feb. 2008.
i may do another month or two of mms soon.
pss. i also had been diagnosed about 12 years ago with CFS/with high ebstien barr virus titers. i know i had a blood test for that back then. i also know that my ebv titers were lower than ever in late jan. o8. i will probably request another ebv titer test on my next office visit if my insurance will pay for the bloodwork again (that close togther from my last titer test). i am going to m.d. in may.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,161,574hello mar33,
i am not the first to have success with herpes with mms. i also know personally a few people who have had success with the mms. one beat herpes, and another chronic fungus, serious burns, and another used mms in conjuction with another protocol to beat cancer and more, with mms.
the person who intoduced it to me had very much success with numerous things. it was only b/c of my personal witness of these successes that i started to take it myself.
and no-one i i know has yet to been harmed by it that i can speak of.
this is all i know for sure about mms. i am not sure about any of the other concerns so i cannot comment on any thing else. i just know what i have experienced and witnessed.
good luck to all whatever healing journey you choose.
happy healing
ananda7
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- my testing for herpes- ananda7
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- Re: i am thankful #89280
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,161,216"bruce is saying do not take mms or you will get poisoned and or die
and jim humble is saying take mms so you will not be sick or die from disease."
Wrong!!!
Bruce is saying do not consume toxic overdose %s of CLO2, humble is recommending consuming overdose %s of CLO2!
Funny humbles first results at curing malaria was with stablized oxygen with 3% CLO2! What motivated him to increase the dose to the toxic 28% ?? Curious!
- Re: i am thankful SilverFox
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This is a reply to # 1,161,405Hello #89280,
Have you ever gone backpacking?
Would you rather carry 1 bottle of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement at around 180 g or the equivalent of stabilized oxygen at around 1240 g.
Tom- Re: i am thankful #89280
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This is a reply to # 1,161,414Oh so you guys are all backpackers?lol! That really doesnt explain the toxic dosing!
- Re: i am thankful #35420
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This is a reply to # 1,161,420hold on a minute, Tom has a chemistry set at home, and he aint afraid to use it!!
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This is a reply to # 1,161,405Funny humbles first results at curing malaria was with stablized oxygen with 3% CLO2! What motivated him to increase the dose to the toxic 28% ?? Curious!
He used Sodium Chlorite in water (stabilized oxygen). It didn't work on Malaria every time so he then started adding a teaspoon of vinegar to the water and sodium chlorite, and then waited for 24 hours to produce enough chlorine dioxide. He then found if he put a lid on top it would produce the same amount of chlorine dioxide in 2 hours. Later he started mixing the acid and sodium chlorite directly before adding the water and that is what we have now.
The 28% solution is perfectly safe as you are diluting it with water before drinking it!- Re: i am thankful #89280
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This is a reply to # 1,161,436The 28% solution is perfectly safe as you are diluting it with water before drinking it!
This is just your opinion, there are many opinions saying this is not so and other warnings to the contrary plus obvious reasons for its potential toxicity!
I dont think any one is arguing that CLO2 is not a decent anti fungal anti pathogen, however in light of the many other safer anti pathogens available such as Grapefruit seed extract Oregano oil,garlic oil etc, that have a proven safe claims to these same healing properties, why all the fuss about this minimal mineral supplement!
These natural foods extracts also come with buffering chelating balanced elements, which work in a more natural synergistic manner, unlike CLO2 !
I've had great success with Grapefruit-Seed-Extract for many uses, no need for a potentially toxic Miracle-Mineral-Supplement experience!
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This is a reply to # 1,161,40589280
--"bruce is saying do not take mms or you will get poisoned and or die
and jim humble is saying take mms so you will not be sick or die from disease."
Wrong!!! says 89280
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hello 89280,
i am actually not wrong here ---so YES, this above is bruce's concern and that above is jim's concern. just go read all of biosafe pasts posts--- it is his concern.
and remember i wrote Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in the above sentences, not chlorine dioxide. bruce DOES feel that the dosage and % of mms can poison and/or cause death where jim feels that that the dosage and % can heal and support life.
i am not taking sides or inlisting an argument, i am just stating both's concerns/positions. and then stating my direct experience. this forum is most useful for everyone involved, if used that way.
ananda7
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- you're quite wrong #35420
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This is a reply to # 1,161,216Bruce thinks that 28% is too potent and is toxic in large amounts. Even Humble must think that or else he wouldnt tell people to back off if they feel nauseous. The only difference is Humble calls it 'pathogen dieoff' which is total BS. Bruce calls it what it is.
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This is a reply to # 1,161,416Bruce thinks that 28% is too potent and is toxic in large amounts. Even Humble must think that or else he wouldnt tell people to back off if they feel nauseous. The only difference is Humble calls it 'pathogen dieoff' which is total BS. Bruce calls it what it is.
You would have to be a moron to take to much as you start out with one drop and increase slowly. And if it's not pathogen die off-toxin removal how could you possibly keep building up your dose until you are taking very large doses?
It isn't toxic it's an oxidizer. If it was toxic it would build up in your body and kill you like arsenic. I know those that have used large doses for six months. Where are the bodies?- I have not died from taking MMS letithappen
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This is a reply to # 1,161,455I took at least 45 drops every day for four weeks and have also taken 30 drops in one go. Yes there were times when I felt very sick and had D but this was mostly in the second week when taking 8x2. Then it got easer until I got to 12x3 then I got the D again. Now I can take 10 drops and do not feel any affects.
I can say in total confidence that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement has done me no harm at all.
It has not cured my hepC or as far as I know not cured anyone else either.
I have though had some positive results and am now suffering much less than before I started taking it.
This is an amazing experiment, obliviously Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is good for some things and if some people keep experimenting with activation, strengths, combinations, dosing ect we are more likely to discover cures than if its banned.
I would be interested to hear any reports of death or serious injury from overdose of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . So far none has been posted.
Thats the rub, no proof of cure and no reports of death.
- nice hearing form u letithappen ananda7 16 y 4,517
- I have not died from taking MMS letithappen
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This is a reply to # 1,161,216
Well that's just great,
Dip your finger in Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and rub on lip, same effect, probably better as you are treating the source. Works for me! And I don't have to swallow Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
Stop taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and see if you get them, bet you do because you are not cured.
Chlorine dioxide is effective at killing hep, aids, malaria, herpes etc in water, not in the human body!- oh,hi bruce! ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,641we arent going to start this again, are we? bruce, you are not reading throroughly as usual, are you? for if you did you would have read that i did stop taking mms about 1 &1/2 months ago. and as an aside, i have not applied it topically since
mid-late jan '08.
best wishes,
ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,664i purposefully chose not to use the buzz word "cured" -- i factually said i am "herpes free", and that i am ---as is my husband.(meaning thus far we have not had any herpes outbreaks since using mms and for 1 1/2 month of being OFF mms for me and over 2 months being off mms for my husband (although his outbreaks were never monthly like mine were).
i am no longer debilitatingly fatigued either.
i feel like a very lucky person.
peace
ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,641
Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and see if you get them, bet you do because you are not cured.>
So your admitting that the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is killing it off in the body and stopping the outbreaks. But she is not likely cured. That's close to what I would believe. And if she keeps taking it the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement might kill it all off eventually.
Then in the same breath you say it doesn't work in the body. - i think you should try... ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,641bruce-ee,
i think you should just try swallowing it ---c'mon..???get it over with.
--- maybe then you will not have to DIP and apply everytime you get one.... it worked for me!
you know, the human body is 70% water, so we are told.
love,
ananda7
- Sianara :) ananda7
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This is a reply to # 1,161,681asta la vista, guys and gals~
i believe i am already getting tired of this~
happy debating :)
luv,
ananda7
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- oh,hi bruce! ananda7
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- Re: i am thankful Zie
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This is a reply to # 1,161,216Hello Ananda!
I know it’s been over 10 years, but I want to check if you still haven’t had any outbreaks since then and if you’re fully cured.
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