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Please read the last sentence of this article below:
http://www.vitaminstuff.com/choline-2.html
"high levels of niacin can deplete the choline in your system. "
By the way: niacin = Vitamin B3
I think this can help all of us, it even might be our cure since our bodies have trouble digesting choline in foods!!!
Thanks
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For TMAU sufferers, here's some info on Niacin (VIT B3).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin
NOTE: [regarding the intake of lecithin for people who don’t have TMA] Thus far, the only proven benefit and suggested use is for those taking niacin to treat high cholesterol. **Niacin (vitamin B3) treatment can deplete choline (vitamin B50), **necessitating an increased amount of lecithin or choline in the diet. CHOLINE AND LECITHIN PRODUCE TMAU SYMPTOMS.http://wwwils.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002409.htm
Niacin (vitamin B3)
Alternative Names: Diet - niacin; Nicotinic acid; Vitamin B3
Niacin is a type of B vitamin. It is water-soluble, which means it is not stored in the body. Water-soluble vitamins dissolve in water. Leftover amounts of the vitamin leave the body through the urine. That means you need a continuous supply of such vitamins in your diet.
Function:
Niacin assists in the functioning of the digestive system, skin, and nerves. It is also important for the conversion of food to energy.
Food Sources :
Niacin (also known as vitamin B3) is found in dairy products, poultry, fish, lean meats, nuts, and eggs. Legumes and enriched breads and cereals also supply some niacin.
Side Effects:
A deficiency of niacin causes pellagra. The symptoms include inflamed skin, digestive problems, and mental impairment.
Large doses of niacin can cause liver damage, peptic ulcers, and skin rashes. Even normal doses can be associated with skin flushing. It can be prescribed as a treatment for elevated total cholesterol and other types of lipid disorders, but it should only be used with medical supervision due to its potential for severe side effects.
The general recommended intakes for niacin are listed below:Age 14 and up: 14 mg/d
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Whilst it is rational to take B2 as part of a B complex supplement, there is a difference in the various preparations of vitamin B complex. Vitamin B complex contains
B1 (thiamine), B2 (riboflavin), B3 (niacin), B5 (pantothenic acid), B6 (pyridoxine), B12, Folic acid and Biotin.
However, high strength vitamin B complex (such as B-50 complex) also contains Choline Bitartrate, Inositol, and PABA.
Yes, that's right B-50 complex contains choline so avoid that preparation if you have trimethylaminuria!Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,154,927Good Job!!!
Nicely written, I myself did research and found similar results. But now comes the hard part, testing if this actually works. The side effects seem to be minor if not abused and taken properly. I really wish this is the cure cause as far as I know everything we TMAU people try back fires on us. I wonder of we could get this over the counter?
May be this is the ray of hope we all needed!
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Hi Survivorman,\
Here's some additional research on Niacin (Vit B) on the NIH medlineplus site. http://wwwils.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002409.htm
Of particular interest is the Side Effects section which depicts the consequence of a niacin deficiency and a large dose of niacin,
A deficiency of niacin causes pellagra. The symptoms include inflamed skin, digestive problems, and mental impairment.
Large doses of niacin can cause liver damage, peptic ulcers, and skin rashes. Even normal doses can be associated with skin flushing. It can be prescribed as a treatment for elevated total cholesterol and other types of lipid disorders, but it should only be used with medical supervision due to its potential side effects.
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This is a reply to # 1,154,927I see some contradictions in the information provided in these two articles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin
While this article above says: "Niacine (vitamin B3) depletes choline."
http://wwwils.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002409.htm#Function
This article says foods rich with Niacine are;
" Niacin (also known as vitamin B3) is found in dairy products, poultry, fish, lean meats, nuts, and eggs. Legumes and enriched breads and cereals also supply some niacin."
Now, arent't these the same foods that are RICH in choline?
I am more inclined to beleive the information in the second article.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,154,440Hi
Thanks for the article and this sounds like a miracle cure but I think first we need to investigate it more!.
One thing I noticed the article also says: "Sustained megadosing (above 6,000 milligrams) with choline supplements can cause dizziness, nausea, and vomiting"
Now, if too much choline in the system cause all these symptoms, then shouldn't everyone with TMAU be consistently experiencing these symptoms? since choline is not broken down and it accumulates in the body.
Just something to think about...
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Hello,
You guys may be on to something. I have suffered with those symptoms for years now along with diarrhea. I take B complex daily (no B50). It has 20 mg. of Niacin. Once I finally conquer the low choline diet I may start taking it twice a day and see what happens. Thank you S - Re: CURE??? U be the judge! Qwertypoi
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This is a reply to # 1,155,824Hi!
I'm afraid this isn't going to work, though I really hope I'm wrong.
Here's why.
TMAU isn't caused by choline per say, its caused by excess trimethylamine produced by gut bacteria from choline. So eating a lot of niacin might effect the ammount of choline that goes into your system by absorbtion, BUT its not likely to prevent your gut from making trimethylamine from the food that you eat.
I'm pretty sure I also have TMAU and I have read EVERYTHING about it on the web, both scientific and non-scientific.
But as I said, I hope I'm wrong. And ofcourse I will give b-3 a go.
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