E.S. and baking soda bath 
cass.gr
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Has anyone ever felt really bad after taking an E.S. and baking soda bath? Just wondering because it really affected me tonight!- Re: E.S. and baking soda bath evanluck
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This is a reply to # 113,289My mother broke out really bad in skin rashes all over her body a couple days after her first bath. Make sure you don't stay in super long if you are really acidic. Also make sure you immediately take a cold shower and stay in the shower long enough until you are completely cooled down.
There are more details on how long you should be in the bath on Invincible's blog.
Hope you feel better soon.
God Bless,
Evan - Yes it did.. ladylove
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MoreThis is a reply to # 113,289Yes, I took ES/BS baths for a few months, maybe 3. At the time an acquaintance who was a runner and who does it all the time, was telling me how great it is. So I tried it. I did them about once per week or less.
At first I thought it was relaxing, but then realized it was just making me tired. The last couple of times I did it, it actually caused me to hurt worse. That's when I stopped it altogether.
I do not know why that happened. I do not plan to do an ES/BS bath again unless I have good reason.
Stay healthy,
Ladylove
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- Re: E.S. and baking soda bath moreless
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This is a reply to # 113,289Hi cass.gr,
The bath soak in the Hot water with the Epsom Salt and Baking soda is for the purpose of pulling the Acids and Toxins out of your body!
It may work better if you also use the Hydrogen peroxide in the water, for this may help neutralize more of the Acids which are pulled out!
What happens is that the stored Fatty Acids may become Released into the Lymphatic system for removal thru the skin pores!
But this means that when you stop soaking that your Lymphatic sysetm may become overloaded with these Toxins, if you have a lot of them stored in your body!
This is one of the reasons why I made the suggestion to take it slow at first in the length of soak time , if you are sick or have a lot of stored Fatty Acids!
Now the other very important suggestion which I made was for the person to take a "COLD" shower immediately after the Hot soak , so as to Reverse the Nitrogen Isotope in the body, which may be now of the Acidic form because of the Hot water, to the Isotope of Alkaline Nitrogen by the action of the "COLD" water!
And by taking this cold shower you may feel much better , than if you do not do it this way!
The whole process is dealing with the removal of your stored Fatty Acids and if they are not completely released from your Lymphatic system, then you may feel Bad!
But if you do the process correctly , as time goes on and you are able to rid your body of the excess stored Fatty Acids, then you may feel a lot better!
Smile Tis your choice.
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This is a reply to # 113,304Thank you Moreless,
I've been using you HP spritz suggestion before or after shower with great suceess so far
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=326&i=3137#i
http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=326&i=3139#i
Thank for sharing your knowledge, you're awesome...
MadArt (ist)
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- Re: E.S. and baking soda bath cass.gr
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This is a reply to # 113,297Thank you all!
I thought there was some info about this but last night, in my “state” I could not find it and got a little scared. I felt intoxicated! It reminded me of how I used to feel all the time actually! I find it fascinating that once you start on your way to rebuilding and balancing, mistakes take a much higher toll on you than when you were totally sick and ignorant of what your are doing to yourself.
Now I have been using the Hydrogen Peroxide as a spray usually before and after any shower bath, but not in the water. One of my main signs of acidy is in my skin via chronic hives, acne, and foot problems. Also, I have a hard time actually sweating like most people do, I seem to sweat 24/7 from my hands and feet only and it takes a LOT of exercise to get a little sweat from anywhere else. I see that now as a blockage of the toxins / Nitrogen Acid Isotope escape route.
Also, I now see that my pH must be on an average of 6.0 or lower. This will be confirmed when the pH strips get here…..
Bottom line is I should have found the additional info on invincible blog before my experience! Thank you for re-providing it for me in either case. My next attempt will ensure I am more hydrated and have more alkali minerals waiting; I will take a much shorter and hotter soak with the cold shower right after and let you know the results of that. It will, however, have to wait a while as I still don’t feel quite right this morning! Perhaps Sunday will be good…..
JML
- Oh My Gosh, Moreless.. ladylove
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This is a reply to # 113,297...This may be what I have to do!!! I'll dilute some foodgrade H2O2 (Is diluted foodgrade OK for this?) and add it to the bath- This will take some improvisation, as there is no tub where I am.
(Maybe a large Coleman cooler LOL).
I will try it this weekend- Thanks!
Good Health to Everybody,
Ladylove- Re: Oh My Gosh, Moreless.. Lapis
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- Got it-Thanks for helping, Lapis :-)... ladylove 18 y 4,489
- Re: Oh My Gosh, Moreless.. Lapis
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- Things I did to help with after affe... cass.gr
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This is a reply to # 113,297Well now that the damage is done, and seeing how it continued to affect me through the morning I figured drastic action was in order. This is what I’ve don’t to counter the tramped toxins in the lymph system:
1. left work and came home!
2. Figi water and super food in order to build mineral level up
3. Very small amount of backing soda in Figi water to help with headaches and flu like symptoms.
4. As soon as I got home I took a cold shower as much as possible! Ouch!
5. Took two 750MG “calcium antacid” tablets. As I don’t have any other source at this time. Listed as calcium carbonate 750mg and elemental calcium 300mg
6. A small BSM/Lemon with a dash of kelp. To help make everything “bio-available”.
Now I checked the mail to find my pH strips! So I tested 6.5 silvia and 7.0 urine. After all I just did I would expect no less and understand that this is a not an accurate measure of my whole system but if I tested acid after all I’ve done I would be even more scared.
All in all I now am staring to feel that it may take all weekend for me to return to how I felt before my experience.
JML
- 24 Hr update... cass.gr
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This is a reply to # 113,297I’m to trying to be a pest here, but after 24 hours after my “bad experience” with the ES bath, I was wondering if their was a time frame that I should start to feel better? It has been 24 Hrs and I’m still completely weak, spacey, and I’m having panic attacks. I have NO energy and am shaky.
Upon awaking after my last post, I have taken a BSM/Lemon drink and tried to eat what I could. Basically tomato soup with garlic and a beats. A little water so that I may use it all in the soup.
Now for the past 4 weeks or so I’ve never felt better and since the panic attract started in the bath last night, I feel 10 times worse than ever.
I know my sweat system does not work so I’m very scared that I put too many toxins into the lymph and now cannot get them out. I would have expected to feel better by now. I feel as if I’m going to have to fall asleep again!
Thank you for any insights…
JML
- What you may do to help yourself! moreless
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This is a reply to # 113,335Hi cass.gr,
Cooked Tomatoes may cause your body to become very Acidic!
Your Lymphatic system may be too Acidic and may be causing many of your present problems!
If you may do another soak for a shorter time in Hot water with the Epsom Salt and Baking Soda and at least one pint of Hydrogen Peroxide, but when you get out of the hot water, you must take a Cold shower to cause your body to become More Alkaline!
The soak may help pull out more Acids to the surface of your skin from your Lymphatic system, but the Cold water is neccessary to change your protein in your body from the Acidic form which is what it becomes when you soak in Hot water,back into the Alkaline form from the action of Cold water after a Hot bath!
It may be neccessary to remove some more of the Acids from your Lymphatic system to help speed your recovery, but do it in shorter cycles! Hot - Cold then all over again!
Smile Tis your choice.- Re: What you may do to help yourself... cass.gr
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This is a reply to # 113,336Thank you so much moreless! I will try the bath again in the morning and let you know how it goes. The baths really scare me now plus the cold water makes it so I cannot breath. I am very active with thyroid and am very skinny!
“It may be necessary to remove some more of the Acids from your Lymphatic system to help speed your recovery, but do it in shorter cycles! Hot - Cold then all over again”
You do mean to wait between the cycles and not do them right after another correct? Perhaps one cycle in the morning and again at night?
JML
- Re: What you may do to help yourself... moreless
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This is a reply to # 113,340Hi cass.gr,
What I mean by cycles is to not try the soak for extended time frames of 30 minutes, but do it on shorter time frames of maybe only 5 minutes at a time in Hot water then a cold shower , then hot water soak for another 5 minutes and again a cold shower!
This way you pull the Acids out from your body and then help neutralize them by the Cold water and then repeat it again!
You may do shorter cycles at one time or shorter cycles over several days, depending on how Bad of shape you may be in!
If you are really Hot before you take the Cold shower, then the cold shower may feel refreshing, but if you are not Hot enough, then a Cold shower may not feel good!
Another way to help your self if you may be having lots of problems with this, may be to just start with soaking your feet for several days to pull some of the Acids out thru your feet first!
This way your whole body may be able to stand it better, until you have removed enough of your excess Acids thru your feet!
Smile Tis your choice.- Great thread here, lots of good info... ladylove 18 y 4,506
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This is a reply to # 113,340
I have a skinny vata body and I used to think a cold shower was a particularly vicious form of torture. I finally figured out how to do it comfortably. I use a hand held shower and start spraying just my feet with the cold water then I move very slowly all the way up till I'm showering the top of my head with the water. This makes all the difference for me and I can do it without all the gasping and shivering.
Hope this helps :)
- Re: cold showering cass.gr
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This is a reply to # 113,357This may help a lot thank you! However I’m now deathly scared of the bath. Even just my feet! Thinking about it makes me weak! So far, I have noticed 3 effects of doing the bath WRONG like I did.
1. Cold like symptoms IE sore throat.
2. Bad headache.
3. Weakness & panic attacks
Since I’m alone and cannot get any supportive friends here, I’ve just drunk mineral water (Figi) and juiced carrots and celery. That is what made me feel so good in the first place. I’m trying to take it easy and give my body time to get back to normal. No exercise or stress.
Even though I’m afraid, I will most likely try soaking my feet, as then I will only have to put them in cold water and should feel much better. In either case, the flu like symptoms and headache left but the weakness remains…. I either did not realize how acidic I was and or how powerful the baking soda and E.S. can be.
JML
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- Re: What you may do to help yourself... moreless
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- An aside .... re: this thread #38976
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This is a reply to # 113,336Moreless:
This sounds like what we do at the hot mineral spring baths in "Termales" [Thermal Waters] Santa Rosa, Colombia.
They have water that channels down the mountain from natural icy cold springs channeled into showers about the size of a large adult's thigh.
They also have dug the rock (mountain) into pools, where natural mineral hot springs pool.
They also put slides (same as public pools) by the cold showers
Soo... We would go soak our feet to get used to the hot ... little by little get into the hot pools, then go 1 - 2- 3 BOOOM under the ICY COLD BIG shower, stay as long as you could and run and jump or slide into the hot pools. Time and time again! Lovely.
Everyone would have to make the trip every so often for the experience and most for health...
Sounds so much like what you are saying, I had to share.
You are the best.... (remind me of my father... tough... but very wise [his nickname: here comes THE LAW! heheheh....)
MadArt (ist)
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- Re: E.S. and baking soda bath functionalmed1
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This is a reply to # 113,289I had the worst headache of my life after one. I thought I was having a stroke, my head was on fire, hands and face went numb, I made my husband drive me to the hospital I really thought I would die. I take Synthroid, maybe that affected it.
- Re: E.S. and baking soda bath evanluck
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