Thanks for the links, ynaig.

Message: 898 From: Connee Chandler Received: Wed Aug 04, 1999 6:43 PM
Subject: ego a la Abe vs ACIM

Hi, friends,

Somebody today asked me why ACIM says ego is bad, and Abe said
ego is good. (Paraphrasing the question here. ) This was my
answer, and I thought you guys might want to add to it.

The problem with ego is that Abe and ACIM define it differently.
ACIM means ego as acting separate from God (loose translation.)
Abe means ego as being your unique personality perspective on the
world that acts as a filter to choose what is necessary to pay
attention to in the 1 billion sensory data bits coming at us at
all times.

The best line I ever heard about ego was someone who said (can't
remember who) that if you
replace the word ego in 20th century literature, with the word
"devil" in 19th Century literature, you could easily be reading
the same literature!

So your friend is right, when he is acting from ego, as in,
separation from God, it doesn't feel
good. But ego can learn to be integrated with God within, and
trained to perceive the million data bits in every moment that
feed back love, light, beauty and joy, and identify itself as the
very valuable filter that shows you God in all things.

What do you think about ego?

Love and hugs,

Connee

 

 

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Message: 917 From: JEEWHIZ@xxx.xxx Received: Thu Aug 05, 1999 3:00 AM
Subject: Why ego is valuable, wonderful, EVERYthing

<< Somebody today asked me why ACIM says ego is bad, and Abe said ego is
good. >>

What does "ACIM" stand for?

<< But ego can learn to be integrated with God within, and trained to
perceive the million data bits in every moment that feed back love, light,
beauty and joy, and identify itself as the very valuable filter that shows
you God in all things.

What do you think about ego? >>


Here's my take on why ego is valuable, wonderful and EVERYthing and why
Abe has is positive about ego. It has to do with perspective. Our unique
perspective and perception of our experience comes through the "lens" of our
individual personhood, and to me our individual personhood is tied in with
our "ego". Can we have different perspectives, different perceptions,
without egos? Can we be individual persons without individual egos?

Each of us is a unique "lens" or "focal point" because each of us was
born in unique circumstances, has lived a unique chain of experiences in a
unique series of places with a unique series of people, with different
"results" and "reactions", resulting in different "beliefs". It's because of
our uniqueness that each of us has a original and "creative" new ideas, new
thoughts, new ways of looking at things. And we all know the value of new
thoughts!!

On a recent tape of the month (Albuquerque, 5/9/99) I heard Abe explain
that (not a direct quote) when we create we are not sending vibrations out
into the universe, as many of us imagine. Instead we are attracting energy
IN, each of us attracting *** a unique synthesis which comes from our unique
perspective. *** To me this means that there is great value in our
individuality, our unique personhood (which again, I relate to the concept of
"ego").

Abe said when we have a "new" idea, we are drawing energy in, creating
a thought bank which is then accessible to others with similar perspectives
and focus. They gave the common example of a scientist having an original
theory, researching it long and hard, only to have another scientist on the
other side of the world "tap into it", do much less work on it (grasp the
concepts more easily) and announce his "discovery" at the same time!!

I'm still looking for clarity about these "thought banks", and this tape
brought questions to my mind! Are our thought banks "close to" the earth,
related only to the physical experience? Do we draw in energy on a topic,
"closer to" the earth from "out there" somewhere in the Universe, making it
more accessible to our fellow physical human beings? Is anyone clear on this?

Jane (ME)

Message: 928 From: Robert Payne Received: Thu Aug 05, 1999 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: ego a la Abe vs ACIM

wow Connee....... i just happen to have an abe tape in my wlalkman about
that very same thing if you can possible imagine something like that ever
happening!!!!!

Ref: Abraham-Hicks - Boston MA 10-11-98 (side A)

The tape begins .... someone asking about the holy spirit that ACIM
describes as 'a guide who helps us heal the separation'. What is the
'holy spirit' and is 'healing the separation' the same thing as being
blended?

++++++++++++++++++++++++
Abraham:
it is tricky to find physical words for things that are non physical and
so we all are reaching for the best description for the reality of what it
is. this holy spirit that ACIM describes is 'source energy', it is 'the
god within', it is the 'Inner Being', it is 'lifeforce' ...... LOTS
of different words would describe it accurately. And when you are
allowing that.... you are 'blended', you are 'connected', you are
'soothed', in other words......you are 'source'............. and so when
you are allowing it...there is no separation.

separation and disconnected mean the same thing--but both are too strong of
words ----because in truth------ you can never be separated or disconnected
from your source! You can only pinch it off enough to have a miserable
time or feel pain or dispair, or experience sickness or poverty.......
because you have absolute free will......... you are so free that you can
create bondage (if you want to.)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

And i have also found that combining the daily ABE calander place matting
process and the ACIM workbook together is cool ....WOWOWOWOWOWOW! ACIM
and ABE are just awesome when used together. ABE with the plain ordinary
talkin that children can understand and ACIM with the poetic beautiful and
also sometimes strange language that only someone like marianne williamson
can grasp the true meaning of. and connee, i love the way that you
translated abe into roman catholic words so that your mom could actually
(for the first time) hear. So could it be that 'floatin your cork',
or 'following your bliss' or 'lovin your neighbor' or 'dont worry be happy'
or 'book of positive aspects' etc etc etc ...... are they all just
Abrahams 'nothing is more important than feeling good" message at the
heart of each idea?

ACIM's -----Holy Spirit and Ego
ABRAHAM's-----Non Physical and Physical

hmmmmmm. Are both just different words used to describe the opposite
ends of the same ATI stick -----And are we the ATI stick? Are we that
ATI stick ..... with GOD (good) at one end and DEVIL (evil) at the
other?
And could 'who we think we are' just be wherever our free will happens
to focus on the ATI stick?
And is abe only saying for us to "focus where it feels good "?

and so could this also be why i sometimes feel like im so absolutely good
inside as well as sometimes feeling like im the biggest screw up that god
ever molded outta mud? and could this be why some people are so delighted
and some are so disgusted by what i reveal of myself? and is this what
determines to whom and when I speak out or shut up? is this what you mean
by that "uneasy truce" you have had with your mom? Is this always part
of the leading edge of thought contrast that everyone else here also deals
with ---- both outside of this abe space and also right INSIDE this abe
space a la our posts and pems?

thanks connee for sharing that last positive post..... i mean the
personal one about your old hard headed mom who still goes to the wrong
kind of church but heard abe anyway without you having to slap her a single
time and teaching her to like tree murderers no matter how many homeless
birds there are out there. i think you are pretty brilliant.
hmmmmmmm i sure wish you would work on my mom and potty train that tiny
taco bell dog she never leaves home without. even abe themselves are
stumped on that one. oh well, little 'hope' (her dog) is her
connection and her whole life .......and it does only takes a cotton ball
and a toothpick to clean up where shes been and she does sing 'home on the
range' real good now when mom plays it on the harmonica. oh yeah......
sing Hope........ 'where seldom is heard a discouraging word and the skies
are not cloudy all day.'........ jeeeeeez i cant sing .... so connee ,
could ya just please pass me your end of the ATI stick that you keep
stiring my thoughts with and a fresh focus wheel?

thanx
lois

ps. you wrote ........."my Science of Mind point of view" and "I am a
Licensed Religious Science Practitioner, which an ecclesiastical officer
position in our church. " ? i am unfamiliar with these terms. could
you explain exactly what this is and what you do and how does abe happen to
be sitting in the middle?

















-----Original Message-----
From: Connee Chandler
To: abe
Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 6:46 PM
Subject: [Abraham-Hicks] ego a la Abe vs ACIM


>From: Connee Chandler
>
>Hi, friends,
>
>Somebody today asked me why ACIM says ego is bad, and Abe said
>ego is good. (Paraphrasing the question here. ) This was my
>answer, and I thought you guys might want to add to it.
>
>The problem with ego is that Abe and ACIM define it differently.
>ACIM means ego as acting separate from God (loose translation.)
>Abe means ego as being your unique personality perspective on the
>world that acts as a filter to choose what is necessary to pay
>attention to in the 1 billion sensory data bits coming at us at
>all times.
>
>The best line I ever heard about ego was someone who said (can't
>remember who) that if you
>replace the word ego in 20th century literature, with the word
>"devil" in 19th Century literature, you could easily be reading
>the same literature!
>
>So your friend is right, when he is acting from ego, as in,
>separation from God, it doesn't feel
>good. But ego can learn to be integrated with God within, and
>trained to perceive the million data bits in every moment that
>feed back love, light, beauty and joy, and identify itself as the
>very valuable filter that shows you God in all things.
>
>What do you think about ego?
>
>Love and hugs,
>
>Connee
>
>
>

 

 

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Message: 963 From: C allison Received: Sat Aug 07, 1999 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: ego a la Abe vs ACIM

Here's a wonderful reply. Transcribed from a recent weekly tape, 6/12/99
Enjoy!


"Well, first of all, we would not work too hard at trying to seperate
yourself from what you are calling that ego. Because, the thing that we
most want you to hear is that you are an extension of non-physical energy
here in this body, because the perspective that is you matters. In other
words, you are focal points in this glittering universe that really, really
matters. And so, your perception, what you are observing and what you are
concluding really, really matters. It matters so much that you can be here
on the leading edge as the focuser of the energy that creates worlds. We
think that's worth having an ego about!

When there is passion, in other words, feel that feeling of passion. What
does the feeling of passion mean? Esther saw someone in the airport the
other day, and she said, "He is so full of himself". And, what she meant
was, he's full of his own God-force, he's full of his own life force. In
other words, he's letting it rip! The most egotistical people on the
planet are often focused on something that they've really been wanting, and
summoned huge steams of energy. They believe in themselves, and so the
energy is flowing!

In your attempt at humility, or modesty, there's often a lot of blockage of
source energy, you see. And so, we think the premise of your desire is a
little screwy. It's sort of like your inner being is saying, "Here you
are, you perfect being. Get out there and mix it up, and let some desires
be born. And, when you have a desire born within you, this Universe has
the ability to satisfy your desire. And, you get to choose whatever you
want." And you say, "Oh, but, should I really? Should I really? Am I
really smart enough, or wise enough, or worthy enough to have the energy
that creates worlds to flow through me?" And we say, if you were not...you
would not be here.

Now, the only thing that is ever displeasing to you, as a soul being, as
source energy, is one of two things, either not summoning energy, or not
allowing the energy that you are summoning to flow. In other words,
anything you would call guilt, anything that you would call unworthiness
comes from that. Not from letting the energy rip through you in the way
that you have intended."

=====Then, the questioner asked abe about their perspective of
alzheimers===========(which IMHO, is very exciting info)======

..............."It's interesting, your two questions are very appropriately
tied together. It's not surprizing at all that you would ask them in the
way you did, cause, your father has been supressing his power for a very
long time, and taught it to you."