MMS and Cancer Marker Update 
#59681
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Dear All,
Followings were my previous posts:
[This was my post on 1-8-08:
"I have been taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for ulcerative colitis for past 20 days at 5 drops a day and have seen very little/none improvement for which I want to go slow.
The real reason for the post is my mom's Breast Cancer in her left breast about 3cm. She has started mms with cancer protocol. She is at 18 to 21 drops a day. She had lots of D and nausea. We thought of checking cancer marker CA 27.29 and we did and the results are 86.8 on 12-28-07 and 96.8 on 1-7-08. The mms was started on 12-19-07.
The question is the increase in the reading. Why? She is scheduled for chemo in a couple weeks. We are very much in disappointment."
Following is the update as of 1-24-08.
My mom is at 6+3+3+3+3+9 drops a day for past two weeks. She had done another CA 27-29 blood test on 1-22-08 and the reading came out to be 87.4. I am not sure weather to call it a improvement for sure. She is also taking the Indian Herb at dinner time only. She has stopped seeing the oncologist for chemo for the time being.
I am at 3+5 drops and yet to see an improvement. My mom stays with me and I am looking for improvement in her situation first. We may continue with the drops and increase a bit for her and then check again.]
My mom had another blood test on 2-12-08 and the reading came out 91.2. She is at 3+3+3+3+3+3 drops a day. She could not handle more drops. She is thowing up, big D and lots of weakness. She was on the Indian Herb but she has stopped since last few weeks due to heavy nausea. At the 18 drops a day she does not have nausea, very little D. Just to keep the track, the readings are 86.8, 96.9, 87.4 and 91.2. I did not see any improvement. Please help. Can she increase the drops and take Imodium(for big D), Tylenol(for strength) and something (?) for nausea. We want to increase the drops and control these symptoms at the same time.
Thanks.
- Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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This is a reply to # 1,111,091Cancer takes a toll on the anti-oxidant reserves, and Miracle-Mineral-Supplement may also deplete these reserves...perhaps you should consider cycling her Miracle-Mineral-Supplement doses with anti-oxidant therapy???
10 days anti-oxidant therapy then 10 days Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
- Re: Consider cycling her dose... ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,111,110This will create a roller-coaster effect, constantly causing detox symptoms when she restarts the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Also, the body will not effectively cleanse. It would be better to reduce the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement to a lower level,but keep taking it.
- Re: Consider cycling her dose...[edi... #69242
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This is a reply to # 1,111,1196. How might antioxidants prevent cancer?
Antioxidants neutralize free radicals as the natural by-product of normal cell processes. Free radicals are molecules with incomplete electron shells which make them more chemically reactive than those with complete electron shells. Exposure to various environmental factors, including tobacco smoke and radiation, can also lead to free radical formation. In humans, the most common form of free radicals is oxygen. When an oxygen molecule (O2) becomes electrically charged or "radicalized" it tries to steal electrons from other molecules, causing damage to the DNA and other molecules. Over time, such damage may become irreversible and lead to disease including cancer. Antioxidants are often described as "mopping up" free radicals, meaning they neutralize the electrical charge and prevent the free radical from taking electrons from other molecules.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/antioxidantsprevention
Cancer and Antioxidants
http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/cancer_and_antioxidants.cfm
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Medical study on oxygen therapy & antioxidants:
Study to determine oxygen free radical activity in neonates, and examine infection risk and compare the degree of oxidant stress in newborns treated with different oxygen concentrations.
Plasma selenium levels in neonates with high infection risk (IR) were significantly lower than in healthy neonates. Comparative study of selenium in preterm, term and young infants showed age-related increases and differences were significant. Plasma selenium values were lower when oxygen therapy was administered. Vitamin E levels were significantly decreased in IR compared with healthy newborns.
The results suggest that selenium and vitamin E deficiencies predispose to neonatal infection and that supplementary oxygen contributes significantly to decreasing the antioxidant defense system.
http://iospress.metapress.com/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backt...
- Re: Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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This is a reply to # 1,111,136There are many types of cancer...some cancers develop from virus, fungus, parasites and some are spawned from a glitch in DNA, there may also be other causes, such as a poorly functioning organ or gland that creates an imbalance and leads to a cancerous state or environmental toxins. ALL shall require a different approach for remedy. If cancer is spawned from pathogen then Miracle-Mineral-Supplement will prove useful, but I am not so sure it will help in ALL cases, especially those that are created by a lack of ANTI-oxidants!
- Re: Consider cycling her dose... ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,111,167Yes, I agree on the different causes of cancer. However, the body is a related whole, and it is hard to separate a single cause for a cancer ... there are so many poisons floating around the body between the mycotoxins from the pathogens, and the pollutants ingested from foods (pesticides, additives) and from air and water, and I think that they all contribute together to making cells sick. So, from this perspective, any reduction in pathogens and their related toxins will reduce the overall toxin load.
Also, Miracle-Mineral-Supplement boosts the immune system, and is used by the body to oxidize and remove all manner of inorganic contaminants. So it may also have an important and direct role to play in the elimination of toxins which are not directly pollutant-related. At the very least, it frees up the immune system to focus on the inorganic pollutants; but it probably does a lot more than that.
I believe that anti-oxidants are important to the body, I would just suggest to shift the diet to a more whole-foods based, green diet to supply them. This can be done quite well while maintaining an Miracle-Mineral-Supplement protocol, although it is easier done on lower doses. Stopping Miracle-Mineral-Supplement then restarting it defeats the idea of maintaining pressure on the pathogen load.- Re: Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,111,378I agree with you too, but that diet is not always feasible and antioxidants are extremely important, especially when the body is ill. I have taken breaks from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and found that it has actually done me a lot of good and I have talked to others who are also cycling with other supplements, especially antioxidants and Iodine with great results.
Cycling may not work with everyone, but for those who are not happy with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement or are not getting the results they would like, they should give it a try.
- Re: Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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- Re: Consider cycling her dose... ldsfireguy
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- Re: Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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- Re: Consider cycling her dose...[edi... #69242
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- Re: Consider cycling her dose... ldsfireguy
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- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update davidtexas
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,111,091I am not an expert, but I have seen test results from many people using herbal methods to cure diseases, viruses, etc. and in most cases their intermediary tests always showed an increase due to the die off showing increased junk in the blood. I would also like to recommend that you get your mother on a phase 1 diet if not a 100% organic green juice fast recommended by Dr. Gabriel Cousens
http://www.treeoflife.nu
I've spent time at the tree of life with cancer patients and results were always delivered during my time there. Dr. Cousens’ bases most of his treatments on the pleomorphic/mycosis theory which basically means cut off the food supply to the bad guys. This means natural Sugar or high fructose corn syrup, cut it all off. I would have myself or any family member or friend on a green juice fast over any supplement if he/she was battling cancer. I do believe Miracle-Mineral-Supplement will help, but you’ve got to hit cancer with every arrow in your sleeve.- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update #59681
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- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,111,271Awesome reply David ... I love Dr. Cousens, and I agree with you both about the temporary increase in cancer markers and the need for a shift to a green diet.
Scott
- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update #59681
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- how about IV dosing? Hellth
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This is a reply to # 1,111,091
Sorry to hear that your mom's numbers aren't plummeting.
As far as I can tell, she's been on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for about 2 months?
When she's not sick with N and D, is she feeling better/worse/same overall? Less or more pain/energy ?
If you asked Jim Humble, he would probably tell you to administer Miracle-Mineral-Supplement via IV. He gives the IV dosage in the 2nd book, if I remember. Is there a doctor you know who might help you administer IV Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ?
I've read testimonies that mentioned that marker number stayed high (or went higher) for 3 months, but the patient FELT A LOT BETTER, even before the marker numbers started to plummet. And they really dropped fast once they started. Hopefully, this is what's happening with your mom.
This must be very hard on you. Our prayers and empathy go with you.
- Re: how about IV dosing? #59681
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This is a reply to # 1,111,305Hellth,
She feels better with low doses and she will not have N and D but according to the protocol, we want to hit hard and that is when we are not gaining.
We do not know any MD who could administer IV.
Also, with the higher dose, she does not feel eating due to the tongue being lasteless. She feels energetic with low dose but we think that it will not improve the situation. We still do not understand the dieoff condition of 3 months.
Thanks a lot for your input.- Re: how about IV dosing? Hellth
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,111,341
Hi again,
I've tried to search my Miracle-Mineral-Supplement materials, but I don't know where I read a story about 3 months being the elapsed time of someone who saw their cancer markers INCREASE at first when dosing with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , then decreasing after a 3 month period. I've read so much about Miracle-Mineral-Supplement over the past couple of months, it's starting to run together!
I DO know that chemo is not going to make your mom feel better, and that if you compare MMS IV to chemo IV, she'll probably feel a lot better with the MMS IV. (especially since she feels more energetic, just taking three drop doses.)
I wish there was more data out there on MMS dosing for cancer, but I don't expect that to change soon either. There's NO MONEY in MMS for big pharma, so there'll probably never be clinical cancer studies done, unless they can figure some way to patent a formulation of chlorine dioxide and cut off the supplies to the public.
If it were me, and my mom was feeling better on MMS light dosing, I'd find a nurse or vet assistant.....whatever.... who can do an IV (it's not hard!) and mix the IV solution according to JH's 2nd book. Starting as slow as possible, of course.
I have no idea where you live or what your other circumstances dictate, but there are doctors who are willing to use an MMS protocol, like that fellow in Tijuana, Mexico, and if you could talk to a real MD who's ALREADY treating people with MMS, that would naturally be my first choice, if I were in the same position!
- Re: how about IV dosing? Hellth
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- Re: how about IV dosing? #59681
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- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update Johny Apple Bomb 16 y 3,433
- Organic, Whole Foods Diet ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,111,091The elevated readings may very well indicate the detoxing that your mother's body is undergoing, especially with all of the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement she is taking.
Please make sure that she is drinking a LOT of water. She should be drinking at least a liter of water for every 40lbs of body weight per day.
Also, try to shift her diet to a more alkaline or "green" one, based upon organic fruits and vegetables. There is a suggestion below about Dr. Gabriel Cousens, and his diet is awesome; another great example of an alkaline diet is from Dr. Robert Young.
Use a blender, and make organic, "green" smoothies ... you can make these delicious by adding a fresh grapefruit. Drinking these a couple of times per day will give the body a tremendous boost from the enzymes, coupled with vitamins and anti-oxidants.
If the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement load is too high for your mother under the regimen you are following, then reduce the drops and/or the frequency, but do not discontinue. Adjusting the dosage but maintaing a continuous Miracle-Mineral-Supplement intake will assure that her body continues to cleanse without setting her back.
Scott- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet #59681
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This is a reply to # 1,111,388Hellth and Scott(Idsfireguy),
Thanks for your input.
We are in Chicago suburb and do not know anybody at this time who could do Miracle-Mineral-Supplement IV on her. It is a good suggestion however, at this time, drops are the only available option.
She is not drinking that much water. She weighs 125 lbs. Also, she does not like spinach, broccoli and other green vegetables. It is very difficult to get her on these.
At first, I just want to find out weather Miracle-Mineral-Supplement is working for her or not. If it is, we could attack from different areas.
Thanks.- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet minime
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This is a reply to # 1,111,501Hello 59681-
I don't think it is necessary to take an Miracle-Mineral-Supplement IV (nor practical because most of us don't have the means to do so), but I absolutely DO - and I mean DO know that with cancer, it is extremely important for your mother to eat her vegetables. You said she does not like spinich, broccoli, green vegetables, etc... It's important to understand that in most situations that's how diseases like cancer, arthritis, Diabetes, etc develop. It's because our immune system fails. That's why it's so very important to eat these crucial foods. They strengthen our immune system. If your mother realizes the importance of these foods, I think she would change her tune about them. Dont wanna say this... but sometimes we have to realize that it's not what we like to eat, it's what we HAVE to eat to have our health.
Your mother needs to LET HER FOOD BE HER MEDICINE because alot of us expect to be able to still eat bad foods then be able to take ONE supplement and expect our conditions to go away. Unfortunatley, it is not that easy. Your mother should focus on overwhelming her body with as many good things as she can to combat the cancer. She needs to hit it head on. If I were her, I would continue the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement but the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement may not be as effective without a healthy diet. God Bless and I really hope she overcomes her condition. - Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,111,501I do not know much about the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement IV option ...
If your mother is not drinking much, then this is definitely one reason why her acidity and her test readings have increased. You do not say if she cannot drink, or if she prefers not to drink much.
Either way, using Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and NOT drinking much will absolutely result in a deeper toxicity in the body. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement produces a ton of toxic by products from the pathogens it destroys ... the way to clear these is to drink. In order for your mother to detox her body, she is going to have to drink a lot more.
As far as the "green" food part of it, this is crucial to getting better on MMS. The fact that her body does not like green veggies is a possible indication of its acidity.
This is one reason why blended veggie smoothies can work well.- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet #59681
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This is a reply to # 1,111,709Scott and Minime,
You both have made excellent point that she needs to drink lots of water and eat green vegetables, organic foods. I just mentioned it to my mom and she has got convinced somehow. At this time she is feeling okay at 18 to 20 drops. We will continue with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and green vegetables along with lots of water.
We really appreciate your input.
Thanks.
- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet #59681
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- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet minime
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- Re:Excellent post and so true Idsfir... minime 16 y 3,509
- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet jfh
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This is a reply to # 1,111,388"you can make these delicious by adding a fresh grapefruit." - ldsfireguy
Every part of the grapefruit is remarkable for its health giving qualities; including the white part of the rind and extract of its seeds. Most pharmaceuticals for heart conditions are voided in the presence of grapefruit; confirming the power of that fruit. Because of that I would beware of eating grapefruit without consulting with the pharmacist about the drugs being taken. Just in case.
...but you are very correct in that the green drink is so much better with added grapefruit.
- Warning about grapefruit and medicat... hanna
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This is a reply to # 1,111,844I remembered seeing a warning on the liverflush forum, so I searched cancer and grapefruit. This is what I found, there may be more posts but these are the first 2 I found, so I would suggest to do more research
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=897851
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=127019
- Re: Warning about grapefruit and med... jfh
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This is a reply to # 1,111,853Wow! That's a lot of drugs to beware of with interaction with grapefruit. I had not idea. Thanks Hanna. It would be a good idea to add grapefruit to the diet otherwise. It really seems more powerful now.
- One more link about grapefruit the g... hanna
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This is a reply to # 1,111,853I thought this gives good general information too
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=898068
- Re: Warning about grapefruit and med... jfh
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- Warning about grapefruit and medicat... hanna
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- Re: Organic, Whole Foods Diet #59681
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- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update Marlene2038
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This is a reply to # 1,111,091Hi 59681 If you email me through this post I will put you in touch with Jim Humble and he should be able to help you. Marlene
- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update #59681
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This is a reply to # 1,111,426Marlene,
I have just emailed you. I have been updating Jim Humble after every blood work. He replyed back in the first week of January and after that he hasn't. His reply was
"Dear ,
Vomiting, Diarrhea are good indicators so don't worry about that just lower the dosage and you'll be fine, if you are in any kind of medicine wait 4 hours when taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , remember start at 1 drop per day and increase, Good luck and let me know how everything goes.
Greetings
Jim Humble."
- Re: MMS and Cancer Marker Update #59681
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- Consider cycling her dose... #69242
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