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I believe Miracle-Mineral-Supplement gave my teen(15) DD with an established chronic nose, chest conjestion the worst cold during her midterm exams. She was coughing up small amounts of blood as well. She later during Miracle-Mineral-Supplement complained that there was a spot in her nose that was burning inside her nose. Not the tip but on the inside of one nostril. Never had experienced this, she has never complained of this symptom or burning sensation ever before. I took her off Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Since then she lost her cold but has developed the worst sinus conjestion she has ever had. It as if the infection has come back even worse then ever before.
Is MMS like an antibiotic?
Doctors tell us to stay on the full 10 days 2 times a day like clock work and not to miss one dose. Could the above experience with MMS be similar to not completing an antibiotic? The infection was not killed and came back with a vengence? Or the eggs were able to survive?
Now here is the clincher. My DD has requested to go back on MMS because even during her MMS cold her nose was much clearer than it is now. It is that bad! I had her on 2 drops 2 times a day. Once going up to 5 and 3 drops. After a week she at 3 drops developed D. Brought her back down to 2 Drops. She was on MMS 2 weeks total.
As for me, I(45, often undernourished basically just looking, feeling my age) am concerned because I was led to believe that MMS does not accumalate and that it is easily neutralized. I have found this NOT to be the case. I also think it kills all the good bacteria much like Antibiotics . With out going to to smelly detail things are not the same.
I also found I am incredibly sleepy and have no energy from the amount of D I had been experiencing. I got off MMS and have been loading up probiotics. My strength has resumed after all this time.
I wish I could take MMS intraveiniously like JH so as not to loose my inner strength in my stomach nor my intestinal flora, right? Or, am I wrong to suppose this? I did note that Smart water helped when I was very weak from D and nausous. Perhaps any water would have helped but I did note that after I drank the nausousness relented.
Important note: I confess to not eating enough, perhaps days not eating at all, not drinking water at all during my MMS exposure.
Shockingly, today I am back on with 2 drops. Why? My tounge turned pink and clear during taking MMS. It is still pink. My bad breath from a loose crown is STILL gone.
Another reason that i am back on is because my heart during MMS had strange but good warming sensations intermittently during the night and day. Sometimes when I would just focus on my heart area.
Not anymore. :-( I miss the feeling of warmness. Sadly, I tried running again, LOL what a difference. My heart puckered out in tiredness like pain as in 1,2,3 seconds.
Whereas when I was on MMS my thighs burned in pain, my heart and lungs were good to go! My lungs still feel very open being off MMS for a while but my heart feels like I use too. it feels old. :-(
It feels reasonable for me to say that MMS could be like getting a heart transplant for me. So, I am back on because I think it was doing something miraculous with my heart and lungs. And something miraculous with my DD chronic nose chest infection.
As for the intestinal flora, stomach weakness, and physical tiredness?
I think it a small price if MMS can rejuvinates my heart and lungs and who knows what else it was doing with me unawares?
Second time round, This time committed to not getting D and not getting nausous by staying low dose @ 24/7. This time round I will drink the water and strive to be mostly alkaline in diet with lots of green. My purpose is to rejuvinate not to cure,
My other purpose is to cure my DD of her nose infection so she can focus on the pleasures of living verses the annoyance of moving mucus around and not being able to smell. Presently she is constantly stuffed up. She use to be stuffed up only occasonally.
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- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... #76749
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This is a reply to # 1,088,393
That's a really good post with many things regarding the ingestion of MMS.
"I believe MMS gave my teen(15) DD with an established chronic nose, chest conjestion the worst cold during her midterm exams. She was coughing up small amounts of blood as well. She later during MMS complained that there was a spot in her nose that was burning inside her nose. Not the tip but on the inside of one nostril. Never had experienced this, she has never complained of this symptom or burning sensation ever before. I took her off MMS. Since then she lost her cold but has developed the worst sinus conjestion she has ever had. It as if the infection has come back even worse then ever before.
Is MMS like an antibiotic?
Doctors tell us to stay on the full 10 days 2 times a day like clock work and not to miss one dose. Could the above experience with MMS be similar to not completing an antibiotic? The infection was not killed and came back with a vengence? Or the eggs were able to survive?"
I'll talk to that part. I am convinced that from my experience and that of others that MMS brings on a cold in many who take it. It brought on the worst cold I've had in several years along with a fever. IF MMS is an antibiotic, it would not do that - it was antibiotics that I had to resort to, also for the first time in many years, that killed the infection - not MMS. People can make all the antibiotic claims about MMS they wish, but that one just doesn't hold water.
Regarding the nose infection, when I sought medical advice, she told me to use a Neti pot to clear out my sinuses. I had one I'd never used, but have been using it for the 3 or 4 weeks since my infection, and will continue to use it on a daily basis. The benefits for me are great. My sinuses used to plug up during the night - even before the infection, but not any more. I use it a little while before bedtime and it keeps them clear and easier to sleep.
I personally slowed down my MMS a bit. Took 10 drops yesterday morning and the diarrhea was so bad, along with the fact I ingest 144,000 HU cayenne, that my backside didn't wish to sit down, so I needed to take a break. Will take it again this evening because at night it doesn't affect me that way.
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- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... boondoc
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This is a reply to # 1,088,393Hi,
A bit overwhelemed by all your information. one question , what is a DD ? (Dear Daughter maybe?)
You mentioned "there was a spot in her nose that was burning inside her nose." and from the rest of your discription it sounds to me like she has, some time in the past, had an infection in there. It is hard to know if this is an old infection or a new one.
From your discription, I think it was probably viral in nature, like maybe a Cold sore on her mucous membrane that lines the nasal cavity. It sounds like the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement was trying to kill this off and remove it from her body. Cold sores are a form of herpes virus and they burn as they live in Nerves and become active when under stress in everyone, on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement or not.
The classic description in medicine is that it feels like a buring match is being held aginst the affected area.
MMS is simular to an Antibiotic in that it kills all those pathogens but unlike Antibiotics the pathogens cannot build an immunity to it, to my knowledge. The same has been found with Colloidal Silver .
I do not think you gave it to her, this is just a normals mothers concern in my opinion.
"My DD has requested to go back on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement " I would if she were my daughter. I only wish I know of MMS back then in the early 1980's.
Now for you. (lol) It sounds like I'm putting you in the crosshairs.
Anyway, there are only a few pathways that toxins can leave your body. Sweating, sneezing, Coughing, voiding, vomiting, or passing it in your stools. I think that is all, maybe tears or breast milk also. When the MMS is killing off patogens the particles become toxins, or oxidation of other toxins , they give you a flu like ache feeling in you muscles and joints and other places as well. These toxins Need to leave your body or you will not be rid of them.
YOU WILL ONLY GET THE ENERGY AFTER THEY LEAVE YOUR BODY!
If you do not drink enough they will probably just settle back into your tissues waiting for an opperituinty to leave in the future is my guess.
"I also think it kills all the good bacteria much like Antibiotics ." Jim Humble says he has studied this and they don't. I have not studied this more form what I know from Medical School and the pathogens are all anerobic and are killed by oxygen and oxidation. The Good bacteria are aerobic, live in oxygen. so it makes sence to me.
"This time committed to not getting D". Diarrhea is what I think you are talking about. In my opinion frequent and watery stools is not the same as dirrhea. just think of it as bowel cleansing as the toxins are leaving your body and are closest to that EXIT DOOR.
I hope this Helps.
Jim Retired MD- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... Tyler Durden
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This is a reply to # 1,088,482Agreed; the gist I got from Keep Flushin's post was that both KF and KF's DD are feeling better in some ways and worse in others, which is not atypical on any road to recovery. As for the DD's cold symptoms with her nose clearing and congesting alternately but gradually getting better, that has been my experience exactly with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Many other people also report that that temporarily happens. Common also is what KF is reporting with the occasional fatigue, the dental improvement (bad breath as well as any infections, esp. if you gargle at all with it) and better circulation. Many similarities to what others are reporting... IMO you should go easy with it and persist using it.
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Hi,
good hearing from you... just wanted to thank you for that post way back about Edgar Cayce method of alternating some sort of break from any supplement... It very much made sense to me, and I have been playing with it every so often (like take one day break from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement every 7-10 days)...
Don't have any conclusive evidence or proof, that or even IF it does something, but it feels good to do it, and each time after a one day break from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement seems like the next dose is lot easier for me to take, and also feels good in my body.
Thanks for posting!!
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- To boondoc jana
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This is a reply to # 1,088,482Dear retired MD :-),
I love reading your posts... thanks for getting involved on the forum, glad to have you here!!
(comes from someone very much NOT fond of or impressed by the MD community as a whole!)
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- Re: To boondoc #89939
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This is a reply to # 1,365,096boondoc, apparently you are unaware of two deaths of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement users that occured in December 2008. It has real dangers. One was reported hear on CZ the other is not discussing it. Are those you mention in your Blog still living?
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- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... Tyler Durden
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- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... boondoc
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This is a reply to # 1,088,393One more thing, the "Cold Symptoms" most are reporting is the Toxins being created by the patogens being killed off. The pathogen, be they viral or bacterial do not cause symptoms, it is when they DIE and breakapart that your body responds to the breakdown products of the dead organism.
If you run a fever it is the cellwall particles of a Gramm Negative bacteria that causes it. - Re: Some concerns...some questions..... jfh
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This is a reply to # 1,088,393You have interesting concerns KF.
With Antibiotics , the pathogens have an opportunity to mutate into something that will resist them, lovingly called super bugs. Miracle-Mineral-Supplement (chlorine dioxide) is an ion receiver (really an aggressive ion taker). The bad pathogens are ion donators (whether they want to or not). So in this case, an Miracle-Mineral-Supplement molecule will totally destroy any SINGLE pathogen it touches. This will cause the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement molecule to transform too, destroying itself. The pathogen does not have time to learn how to mutate. It will be destroyed. Its neighbors won't know why either; because there be no trace of what existed before. Only the toxins are left. All of this is chemical; even though I'm talking about intelligence.
According to the Science of it, the chlorine dioxide will not kill any pathogen that does not have donor ions to give. That should include anaerobic pathogens that have a lower pH than 7. Your blood and other good things in your body are 7 or higher pH. It is not quite clear to me; but I believe that good flora or biotics have pH7 or higher as well. If you are concerned, you can take probiotics; but take them about an hour after MMS. You would do this if you were taking a lot of Colloidal Silver as well. Even olive leaf extract and oil of oregano will destroy the good bacteria.
I think the doc is right about what is going on with the cold/flu. I've found that my intestines get the most help and the rest of the body gets whatever help is left over; which isn't much. My feeling is that MMS works on my sinuses a tiny bit at each dose. Just enough to aggravate things. Like making my mucous a tiny bit thinner. My cold symptoms do not come with a fever.
Maybe each one of these posts has helped a little.
- Re: Some concerns...some questions..... keep flushin
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This is a reply to # 1,088,542I sure hope so!
I like a lot of things about Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I am not surprised though if it does come with some drawbacks for me as many things do in life. You know, the pros and cons list.
I forgot to mention that I already have low blood pressure and initially was impressed by how my large veins were barely noticible on my hands. BUT Large veins is normal for me because of my thinner skin and and little body fat.
I did notice softer skin and clearer skin. Although Miracle-Mineral-Supplement did not give me plumper collegen rich skin in the 2 weeks that I was on. But what Miracle-Mineral-Supplement was doing was bringing down my blood pressure even further. For some this might be perfect, but for me I could barely sit before my legs and body parts started falling asleep and would have to jump around to shake off the pins and needles. And this was happening frequently.
During MMS I checked at the drugstore free tester and my blood pressure was exceedingly below average.
Mind you I was up to 15 drops and doing MMS enemas, I think MMS brought it down too low and I barely had energy. none what so ever.
On the 20 drops enema it felt almost identical as to having drank it. It was being absorbed through the intestinal track no doubt. Nothing unusual came out except some white stuff. Which I think...at least at this time, was all the additional probiotics I was taking during MMS protocal. Not at the same time hours away from each other.
Doctor, or anyone know what kind of microscope do we need to see parasites in our BMs? I never see anything but what I ate. And what kind of microscope do we need to see our blood interacting with oxygen?
If you are still with me, DD stands for dear daughter. I suspect she was in contact with a flash flood mold years back. They told us the apartment was safe to go back in, etc. but for months we suffered with the smell of mold and had mushrooms growing out of our carpet. I also found black mold growing behind our headboard. They refused to give us a new carpet. They said the cleaning was good enough.
Unlike DD, I never developed a cold but had a fever on and off and felt like one was coming but always better by morning.
As much as I like putting the peddle to the meddle with new health products, I should be in the habit of eating and drinking better before taking on something as strong as MMS for the long term.
I just finished trying sunflower instead of Olive oil liver flush. Small stones, some chaff, felt strong like bull afterwards. Will stick to olive oil in the future. I missed the burning in the pit and the gross OO (Olive-Oil) after taste in the morning. lol Truthfully, I get better results with OO (Olive-Oil) such as softer skin the morning after.
Ready to try MMS again but this time I would like to keep MMS silent in the background most of the time.
Keep Flushin!
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- MMS is definitely antibacterial ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,088,393but it is selectively so. It will not destroy intestinal flora, however the range of symptoms that will occur during detox is phenomenal.
As for the cold thing, that is definitely a symptom of the detox that occurs. Keeping the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement dosage down low will help avoid this, and drinking lots and lots of water. It was not the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement that gave that terrible cold to your daughter, but it was the debris and toxins that were released in quantity which did it.
The fluids in her body got so polluted so quickly from the rapid release of toxins from all of the destroyed pathogens, that the remaining pathogens flourished. Reducing the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement at that point, rather than stopping it altogether, and continuing to super-hydrate, will allow the body to keep cleansing while flushing out the poisons.
Your fatigue may very well be a result of your diarrhea, combined with general detox. The same answer applies, reduce MMS and super-hydrate, and then go more slowly with the MMS thereafter.
- Re: MMS is definitely antibiotic #76749
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This is a reply to # 1,088,633
idsfireguy, you post some good stuff on this site and I agree with a lot of it, but on this one I'm going to disagree. When you say that MMS is "selectively" an antibiotic - it can't be. It either is, or it isn't. I had a cold and fever that was induced by MMS, continued with MMS, and didn't abate until I took antibiotics - as much as I didn't want to, but by that time it was my only choice.
Your choice of words is like saying that a machine gun only kills bad guys.
- Re: MMS is definitely antibiotic ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,088,640MMS kills organisms that are anaerobic and/or acidic. There are certain bacteria that fit this description, and that are therefor attacked and destroyed by the action of the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ; there are also bacteria which do not fit this description (ie. beneficial intestinal flora) which are not impacted by the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
These beneficial bacteria are actually positively impacted by the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement - as it cleans out the typical overgrowth of negative microforms in the intestines, the opportunity arises for recolonization by good flora.
If this were not the case, then all those who have taken MMS/sodium chlorite on a long-term basis would invariably get or remain very ill, because they would have no intestinal flora to protect them.
- Re: MMS is definitely antibiotic #76749
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"If this were not the case, then all those who have taken MMS/sodium chlorite on a long-term basis would invariably get or remain very ill, because they would have no intestinal flora to protect them."
Then there is no foundation for its ability to kill any bacteria.
Raw garlic (not cooked, or cold processed) does not kill intestinal flora either, and in fact kills parasites in the body - including the malaria parasite. I see a load of similarities between garlic and MMS, but garlic is not an antibiotic, and until some definitive tests - meaning real lab tests, as has been done on garlic - come through, I'm still not a believer. If the body benefits from MMS it could easily be because of boosting the body's immune system. (Garlic is much easier on the body than MMS.)
That won't stop me from continuing MMS, it will just allow me to keep my biases open.
- Re: MMS is definitely antibiotic ldsfireguy
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This is a reply to # 1,088,670"Then there is no foundation for its ability to kill any bacteria.
Raw garlic (not cooked, or cold processed) does not kill intestinal flora either, and in fact kills parasites in the body - including the malaria parasite. I see a load of similarities between garlic and Miracle-Mineral-Supplement , but garlic is not an antibiotic, and until some definitive tests - meaning real lab tests, as has been done on garlic - come through, I'm still not a believer. If the body benefits from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement it could easily be because of boosting the body's immune system. (Garlic is much easier on the body than Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .) "
I really do not understand exactly what you are saying here. There are LOADS of tests on the fact that acidified sodium chlorite kills bacteria - that's why it is used in purification processes, for food preparation and storage, and cleansing processes all over the world.
Acidified sodium chlorite kills anaerobic and acidic micro-organisms.- Re: MMS is definitely antibiotic #76749
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This is a reply to # 1,088,679
"Acidified sodium chlorite kills anaerobic and acidic micro-organisms."
That doesn't make it antibiotic - as in killing a cold virus or the virus that causes AIDS, or any others.
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