Four Week Update 
ajgasper
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Hi,
Thought I'd give an update since it's been about four weeks.
I started this after OPing, after starting into a H. Clark Parasite cleanse. Of all the stuff I was considering doing, this seemed like the least intrusive. Overall I'm very pleased and surprised by the results. There have been a few chuckholes, but nothing I could say are the results of OPing.
The results are my overall dental hygiene has improved considerably. I thought I had good teeth to begin with, but they are great now. My gums are pinker and firmer. I think my teeth are whiter.
Before I started OPing my teeth were sensitive, and I had pain in two filling areas. With a few short-term instances these have disappeared, and I will describe those below. About 14 days into it I noticed my gums had pulled away. I assume as my gums got healthier, the slight inflammation left, leaving healthy gums. The results appeared to be gum recession, but have not changed since then. I didn't think I was this vain, but wrinkles around my eyes have been disappearing, and my double chin has been firming up. This may also be related to some of the other things I'm doing, but I think my skin has a better hue to it. I'm hoping to win the New Born Baby's Rear End award.
What I have discovered is I have one filling that is leaking. A few years ago a filling came out. I've always suspected the dentist did a bad job. There had been pain in that area for a considerable amount of time. In addition, I had to use hydrogen peroxide on a weekly basis to clean my ears out. Since I started OPing there is no longer pain, but now I have to clean my ears on a daily basis. So I'm reading the CZ to decide what to do there.
I OPed on Olive Oil the first day.
I OPed on Flaxseed Oil the second day.
I've OPed on Sesame Oil until 3 days ago when I switched to coconut oil.
I am going to switch back to sesame oil. The taste of coconut oil is great, but my teeth are getting sensitive. I don't know if it is the oil, or the weekly parasite maintenance. There are times they seem to be getting sensitive, but I cut back on the minutes I OP. Really can't say it is the oil. I'm introducing so many things (colon cleanse, parasite cleanse, liver flushes, kidney cleanse, diet) that it's hard to determine cause and effect. When I say sensitive, it's the way my teeth get when I eat raw vegetables for a week or more, which I've been doing a lot recently.
There was also a 6-hour period when I was prepping for a liver flush that one of my molars with a filling became very painful. I believe that had more to do with the other stuff I was doing.
What I can say is my mouth has never felt this clean even after the first day I tried it. The only thing I can say is work your way into it to find out what your body likes. If it's 30 minutes and flaxseed oil...... you go for it. If not start out at 5-10 minutes.
If you have any questions, Laura (Sandburg) has been great. She is still probably laughing about my questions on how much hydraulic pressure you needed to squirt the oil between your teeth (you don't need any).
If you have not tried it, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. It's amazing that something so simple can produce such astonishing results.
Arnold
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- Re: Four Week Update sandover
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This is a reply to # 1,085,973Hi Arnold,
Thanks for this great post.
I think it's interesting that so many people have had tooth sensitivity around OP and parasite cleansing. But, as you say, it becomes difficult to ascribe any side effects (good or bad) when one is trying several different therapies at once. I began oil pulling in part because I was still nursing my daughters and some of the things I wanted to do (like a parasite cleanse) were things that were not advised if you were pregnant or nursing. Oil pulling was about the only thing I could do for a while! (I did do some Liver Flushing and got some grief for that, and I do plan to Liver-Flush again after this parasite cleanse is over because I did not do as much of it as I wanted/should have -- I sort of moved on to Iodine and stopped the Liver-Flush after a few months.) I am going to keep my diary up-to-date so I will hopefully have some better record this time next year of what happened when I did XYZ as I don't have time to read all of my posts to try and recontruct 2007's good and bad side effects for me.
Although, I still think that the only really bad side effect I have had from OP was a detox reaction early on in the form of a huge canker/cold sore in my mouth. That was a life-changer for a week or two! It occured after I started adding oil of oregano (ooo) to my main oil pulling oil. But after it went away it never came back.
At present I think OP (with ooo) has helped me keep a cold away. I have been using flax in the past couple of days for a treat, with the ooo, and I love it. (But as soon as I get to the store, I too am going to get some more sesame -- it is not my "favorite" oil but it is an excellent one, it's cheap, available nearby, etc.)
Best to all,
Laura
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- Re: Four Week Update ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,087,200Hi Laura,
Thanks. You've been a tremendous help. I started Iodine yesterday on 1 drop, and did 2 drops today. I'm going to post on the Iodine forum once I get everything together of what I'm doing, why, and expected results. That forum is a little difficult in figuring out what a sample protocol would be: companion nutrients, vitamin C, bromide, flouride, dosage, detox symptoms, etc., etc., etc. Then there is parasite cleansing.
Sure would be nice if it was all as straight forward as Oil Pulling. I suppose if it was, there would be no more war, hunger, or disease. Makes one think, if Oil Pulling had been around back in the beginning, would we have had "original sin".
I remember one of your earlier posts had said something to the affect that this forum was pretty open as compared to some of the others where adherence to the rules was expected. I'm getting an inkling of what you were talking about, now. There are some pretty strong personalities out there. Oh well, that's life in the fast lane. Just glad the CureZone is around, there are a lot of knowledgeable and helpful people. The aspect of making an informed decision about my health has a tremendous amount of appeal. Just a lot of stuff to learn.
How are you doing? For some reason I get all the posts from one of the other forums. I know this guy, Anthony Francis Michael da Copo de Tuti Copi Rigatorli (Luigi for short). He's about 6' 6", weighs 300 lbs, and lives with his mama. I know his mother, who is about 4' 10". He listens to his mama real good. He handles all my light work. You just let me know: 1 or 2 knee caps. I will talk to Luigi's mama, and he will take care of the rest.
Arnold
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- Re: Four Week Update sandover
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This is a reply to # 1,087,322Arnold,
I will keep Luigi in mind. Does he do any e-kneecap-breaking????
When I first came to OP in October '06 it was a little bit more busy and active...there was usually a crowd here, as a matter of fact! Then a lot of the regulars headed over to Iodine where Vulcanel was starting to post about I supplementation. Trapper and Wombat still come back to check up on us periodically, but that forum is so busy -- fast-moving, so much information, etc. -- I never have as much time as I want to learn about all of this stuff, and they were literally learning as they were doing. It was exciting to be part of but overwhelming, too -- I felt a little left behind as a matter of fact!
What I did regarding Iodine after I was convinced by early reports was to look at the protocol on breastcancerchoices.com. The Iodine Supp forum was trying to establish a protocol or to determine what/how much to take, and what to take along with it.
This past summer I would drink a bottle of salt water, then drink a bottle of salt waster with iodine mixed in, and then drink another bottle of salt water. Salt is important (I like to use the great Sea Salt from realsalt.com but I don't think it makes too much difference). Vitamin C is important too. I did not get the headaches and bromide detox people talk about but it is probably because I always kept it at under 35 or so mg per day and did the salt and C. I do the selenium when I remember. (There is an ideal around here, and then there is a reality around here ... !)
Then I got really into external iodine in oil. (You can OP with a couple of drops shaken into your oil, too.)
I still go over there from time to time and try to read back posts, etc. but mostly my favorite place to be is right here at OP!
Laura- Re: Four Week Update Molly Bloom
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This is a reply to # 1,087,410FYI Laura -
I've been discussing the salt loading thing with Wombat. I think she's posted some things about that. There is a point that you can get too saturated with salt, and then it can start working against you. She has stopped doing any salt loading and is trying to get other forum members to understand where she is coming from. I agree with her as I had a terrible experience with it.
I just wanted to pass that onto you.....
Molly- Re: Four Week Update sandover
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This is a reply to # 1,087,560Molly (and others) --
I did the salt thing a lot this summer with the Iodine and salt etc. More recently I have just used Lugol's and I have been taking lots of C anyway and selenium when I remember it. I am so bad about doing this stuff perfectly.
I am not sure I did the bromide detox others describe. But it was hard to keep up anything on a regular basis this summer because of the headaches I was having.
I did see W.'s post at the Iodine Supp. forum and it rang a bell with me as I do believe that salt is good for us and that things like a SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) aren't to be avoided because of worry about staying low-salt (which we hardly do around here!) But wondered about the high quantities day in, day out. Dr. Jarvis never mentioned companion nutrients, so maybe if you are one who stays in the lower range, it's not as necessary (although during Jarvis' time there was not the halides exposure we have now..).
Anyway, I am back at a place where I should probably step up the formal protocol again with Iodine but another day has again gone by...
Best,
Laura
- Re: Four Week Update sandover
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- Re: Four Week Update Molly Bloom
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- Re: Four Week Update roooth
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This is a reply to # 1,087,322Arnold,
I think most of the protocol for Iodine is to assist with the detox. I don't bother with the salt usually - my detox is supermild, just metal taste in the mouth. I just have chewable vit c at work and I munch on them when I take iodine, plus I'll take selenium usually. That's all.
:)
~Ruth- Re: Four Week Update Molly Bloom
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This is a reply to # 1,087,452Hey Rooth,
You don't take Iodine at the same time as the Vit C, do you? It will immediately turn it into Iodide...! I'm sure you aren't but thought I'd say something just in case.
Cheers, Molly- Re: Four Week Update roooth
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This is a reply to # 1,087,563Actually, that's why I have the chewable vit c's at work - I take Iodine in the morning and now that I know they shouldn't be mixed, I will tkae vit c later.
I've done my OP every day since I got a "talking to". ;-)
- Re: Four Week Update roooth
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- Laura and Ruth, Thanks ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,087,452Thanks.
I'm afraid broken knee caps are like broken hearts. You just have to move on. Hope you got a chuckle or two out of that.
The Iodine, Parasite, and MicroBiology forums are sort of mind numbing with the breadth and depth of knowledge. I just keep revisiting/re-reading, and things start to come together.
I originally started on CureZone because of a rapid weight gain that I related to pre-diabetes. After the initial review, I realized other things I was experiencing were all symptoms of some root problems. That is, fatigue and memory function. After some of the emotional swings I went through doing the parasite cleanse, depression can probably be added to the list. Not that I felt worse, but there were some days I felt so good that going back to normal is not an option. I think the majority of my parasite issues are bacteria/virus related.
At first I thought it might be mercury poisoning (which is still a strong case), but after Oil Pulling I think there is a bacteria connection also. This has to do with memory function in addition to other disorders. Probably due to amalgams??? (metal fillings in teeth). Probably the same with the Mercury. I firmly believe Oil Pulling has reversed and/or held in check the bacteria.
It's been interesting doing this stuff. Initially have to wonder what is happening to my mind/body. Once you understand that, you start eliminating theories and adding new ones. I can see where someone can get into trouble if they are not careful. Most of the time I do things, and do not really understand what is happening. There is a lot of inter-connection, and everyone's experiences are predicated upon their circumstances So these forums are nice for feedback and advice.
Below is a rough draft of what I'm putting together for my self on the iodine protocol. I need to go back through and get some more information. I hope you all don't mind reviewing it.
Thanks,
Arnold
Companion Nutrients
The Iodine Protocol also seems to address the heavy metal's issue. That is, cells contain excess Bromide and Fluoride, because of a lack of iodine. Heavy Metals accumulate due to a lack of minerals. So to get everything back in balance one must detox everything, get in synch, and then do a maintenance program. So this is my understanding of companion nutrients, and what they do.
Lack of Mineral
Causes
Mineral Dosage
Vitamin C
Detox Bromide
3,000 mg
Magnesium
300-600 mg
Selenium
Mercury Buildup
200 mcg
Iron
Lead Buildup
150 mg
Calcium
Lead Buildup
600 mg
Zinc
Lead or Cadmium Buildup
20 mg
Niacin
500 mg
Copper
2 mg
Chromium
120 mg
B1
60 mg
B2
400 mg
I'm still working on the table.
The Thyroid needs Selenium, Zinc, Magnesium, Chromium, and Iodine to function properly.
- Selenium helps convert T4 to T3.
- Zinc influences the secretion of TSH
- Chromium there is a link, but unknown at this time.
Iron deficiency reduces iodine therapy.
Bacteria
Iodine for Bacteria kill:
ORGANISMS (NO. of STRAINS)
RANGE OF PVP-I IN ppm AVAILABLE IODINE
CONTACT OF KILL TIME IN SECONDS
Proteus (41)
100 - 2500
15 - 180
Staphylococcus (36)
66 - 2500
15 - 80
Pseudomonas (36)
25 - 2500
15 - 900
Streptococcus (25)
200 - 2500
15 - 30
Escherichia (23)
200 - 2500
30 - 120
Salmonells (9)
1000 - 2500
15 - 60
Candida (8)
3.75 - 2500
10 - 120
Serratia (6)
200 - 2500
60 - 120
Spores-Baccillus; Clostridium (6)
10000
2 - 5 Hours
Trichomomonas (5)
400 - 2500
30 - 60
Enterobacter (4)
1000 - 2500
60
Klebsiella (4)
500 - 2500
60
Clostridium (4)
1000
30 - 60
Shigella (3)
1000 - 2500
60
Corynebacterium (3)
2500
60
Diplococcus (3)
1000 - 2500
60
Mycobacterium (3)
1000 - 2500
60 - 120
Bacillus (3)
7.5 - 2500
30-Oct
Sarcina (2)
500 - 2500
60
Trichophyton (2)
1000
60
Aspergillus (2)
1000
30
Mima (1)
2500
60
Herella (1)
2500
60
Edwardsiella (1)
2500
60
Citrobacter (1)
2500
60
Providencia (1)
1000
60
Acienetobacter (1)
3.75
10
Epidermophyton (1)
1000
60
Microsporum (1)
1000
60
Pencillium (1)
1000
30
Nocardia (1)
2500
60
I need to do the calculation of PPM. I also want to find out what this bacteria does, causes, symptoms.
Dosage
Research appears to indicate that 12.5 to 50 mg maintains an appropriate iodine level. To measure, 1 vertical drop = 6.25 mg. 1 horizontal drop = 12.5 mg. To achieve detox levels, increase dosage until detox symptoms appear. If symptoms are severe, back the dosage down, and then gradually increase. Some people are taking in excess of 100 mg. The detox period lasts for three months.
Expected Results
- More energy
- Clearer thinking
- Response to weight control
Schedule
- 6 AM - Mineral and Vitamin cocktail
- 6-8 AM - 32 oz water with 1 tbl ACV and 1/4 tsp. Himalayan Salt & pinch of cayenne
- 8 AM - Iodine in Apple Cider
- 8-10 AM - 32 oz water with 1 tbl ACV and 1/4 tsp. Himalayan Salt
- 10 AM - Vitamin C
- 10-12 AM - 32 oz water with 1 tbl ACV and 1/4 tsp. Himalayan Salt
- 12 AM - Iodine in Apple Cider
- 12-2 PM - 32 oz water with 1 tbl ACV and 1/4 tsp. Himalayan Salt & 2nd dose of minerals
- 2 PM - Vitamin C
- 4 PM - Iodine in Apple Cider
- You're so good! roooth
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This is a reply to # 1,087,654and I'm so lazy! I just take one mulivitamin except for the things that are stressed most like selenium. l-a-z-y!!! haha- Re: You're so good! ajgasper
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This is a reply to # 1,087,784I don't know about lazy. I plan to get back to "one" vitamin level after I get through this. Trying to keep track of what I'm taking, and then the effects isn't my idea of fun. Yes, the good old days would be nice. A vitamin in the morning, and a glass or two of 2BuckChuck in the evening. - Re: You're so good! sandover
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This is a reply to # 1,087,784Ruth and Arnold...
I had the same thought exactly as Ruth -- he's so GOOD!
I also had no idea about the not taking C and Iodine together -- I have been doing that lately, mixing up some cider, C, and adding some iodine. It *is* confusing with all of the nutrients. I think there is a sample protocol at breastcancerchoices.org.
I am trying to be so good. I caved to a desire for ice cream, so have mixed a bunch of cayenne pepper in it and am eating some -- I hope no bad reaction occurs with that. Cayenne is great with ice cream and I think it cuts down the congestion ice cream sometimes causes me.
Good night everyone!
Laura- Re: You're so good! roooth
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This is a reply to # 1,087,937Cayenne flavored ice cream? Why didn't I think of that??? lol...
Yeah, at some point I found out that Vit C turns Iodine into Iodide which is still good for you... but something about one is an antioxidant while the other is an oxidant, don't know details...anyway all that ruined the idea of mixing it with something tasty in the morning like oj. I really hate the taste if it's more than 5 drops so I take the Iodoral pill instead but I have Lugols that I want to use as well.
Anyone have an idea about what to mix Lugols with to make it taste better but that will not change it's chemistry?- Re: You're so good! roooth
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This is a reply to # 1,087,974just realized we're still on the op forum! I may ask this on one of the Iodine forums...
- Re: You're so good! roooth
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- Re: You're so good! ajgasper
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- Re: Four Week Update Molly Bloom
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- Re: Four Week Update sandover
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