Strange Arundo Psycho Active Properties with Arundo Donax?
Strange Arundo Psycho Active Properties with Arundo Donax?
Date: 12/5/2011 5:10:02 PM ( 13 y ) ... viewed 2757 times
I was just googling "How to build things out of Arundo and came upon this one:
DMT?
Here's the original source claiming tryptamine content in Arundo donax:
Arundo donax L. (graminae), a tall, stout, perennial shrub, often woody below, is widely distributed in India… (Alkaloids were obtained from) the alcoholic extract of the rhizomes of this plant… As the rhizomes contained very little fat the alkaloids were extracted directly with alcohol without prior defatting with petroleum ether…Dried and milled rhizomes (700 g) were extracted (95% EtOH), in a percolator, at room temperature for 4 weeks. The EtOH extract was concentrated under reduced pressure to give a brown viscous consistency (112 g) (Ghosal et al. 1969).
The first part of the extraction formula appears pretty straightforward--after that it rapidly exceeds my ability to translate. Essentially, approximately two pounds of dried root-powder is percolated in 95% ethyl alcohol. (Available in liquor stores under brand names such as Everclear and Clear Springs in many states, or make a run to Tijuana for the much cheaper Mexican version of the same stuff.) The time period of four weeks seems a bit extreme--anyone know how to do this faster? Also, the rest of the formula was probably designed to separate out each alkaloid for identification. Maybe that isn't necessary to make an ayahuasca analogue--in the Amazon, raw plant material is just boiled in a pot over an open fire. -- Jim DeKorne
Unfortunately, DMT (unlike many other compounds) seems to be only rarely present in Arundo donax--at least in those specimens that I have encountered. Johnny Appleseed ran TLC on numerous collections and plant parts that I made using material from Central Texas. Many, often dark, bands were found. None were identified. DMT was completely absent from every single sample except for one of young skinny white roots. -- K. Trout
Strange Arundo Psycho Active Properties with Arundo Donax?
An unruly patch of A. donax can be killed off by using dry ice and ammonia. My own patch was killed in 1994 after ice storms and twenty-below-zero temperatures. -- R.S., DE
found 3:09 pm
December 5, 2011
Hope it didn't exist such a thread already...
This is actually the best list of DMT containing plants that I found in
the net. I posted it here again not only to collect all the data about
the topic and to add some more user based knowledge but also because
some of the sites (e.g. Vovins Extraction page) were getting offline in
the last months.
Arundo donax "giant river reed" (Gramineae)
Contains
up to 3% DMT. The flowers and roots contains DMT. The roots not only
contains DMT and 5-MeO-NMT but also bufotenine. The flowers are free
from bufotenine2. In J.Ott´s "Ayahuasca Analouges" Arundo donax only has a trace amount of DMT in leaves, roots and flowers. Christian Rätsch "The Dictionary of Sacred and Magical Plants" 1992 p.152 2Alexander Shulgin "TIHKAL" 1997 p.261.
Picture of Arundo donax
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