- "What God Wants, God Gets" by Karlin
18 y
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Blog: Path of my Life
"God would not allow anything to happen that he didn't want to happen."
"Nothing happens that god didn't intend to happen."
"Everything that happens is because god wants it to happen."
K - something like that. I have not heard this "religious factoid" for about 40 years, but like other religious doctrine, it is gaining popularity, or at least more air time {I suspect the latter will beget the former...
Somewhere in there is the idea that "everything that happens happens because god wants it so".
First off, I need to say that it doesn't make any real logical or philosophical sense - it becomes circular logic, a folly for the feeble minded. Also, it implies that we do not have free will, and that our choices are not ours or they have no consequence: whats the point in humans having intelligence if thats the case?
HAving people believe that statement could not be more convientient for someone who wants to control people, to get them to accept all that goes on.
Therefore, a big over-arching statement like "God Wants it So" carries this risk of abuse, and so the people using it must be trustworthy [eg. not pedophiles]. Unless... oh ya! god intended this, so it is okay then. Go butt-ravage those youngsters cuz if it happens, god intended it.
And of course, it is ok that whatever is happening, even if it is due to our choices and our decisions, is "What God Wants", and so all the good people accept torture, global warming, cancers for everyone, and unnecessary brutal wars and genocides.
But it is happening this way. These staements and sentiments are coming out from every corner of the media now. It has "emboldened" some people, and they are taking these messages thru individuals to the public too. Maybe god intended it. They can allways circle that back at me. These religious ideas cannot be shelved, just like god cannot be proven to "not exist".
I see more media coverage of all things religious [other than Islam of course, ya hypocrites!!] There is no way that the media has simply responded to a public's wish for more religion on TV - It isn't so, there are more non-religious that there are religious. This is very important to remember now - the #s of religious people has been dropping steadily for 50 years. Only Athiesm and Islam have gained numbers.
So it is driven by a moniroty population with an agenda to set upon the world. They are saying "Majority wishes be damned, they are all wrong". Right, this is the Right. They believe they are right and we are wrong, so they left us out. Thats why we are called the left. Left out is more like it.
We don't like it. We are the majority. Democracy and Religion are mutually exclusive if the practises so far are any indication. We are seeing a withering of Democracy in favour of religious doctrines being implemented in advance of a prophetic apocalypse that they are trying to make happen.
??? - Why would they need to MAKE it happen - if they belived their own words, they would be secure in the belief that it WILL happen without any help, god is a big boy and he can handle it.
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- I think we must allow for the free will.... by kerminator
18 y
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| We have a free agency thru the will or good grace of GOD... This allows for our choosing him rather than the other way around.... This is simplistic over view; but we need GOD more than HE has any need for us... SO it is the free agency that sets the stage that we (you) can decide what you will do... This is where we either blend into God's will or not.... The "NOT" has a rather nasty, ending and comes with very bad odds.... Thanks for your posts.... See ya.. K
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- Re: I think we must allow for the free will.... by Karlin
18 y
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Gee, No Kerminator, I cannot abide by this post of yours.
If you knew me or my writings, I am sure you would not have posted that for me to read unless you were trying to prod me into a confrontation. Were you?
I speak of brainwashing and manipulation a lot. Tactics of persuasion that include FEAR are something that utterly disgusts me. It is a tactic used by the worst of humanity, corporations and Elite-globalists and conservative warmongers everywhere. And yes, religions [All of them.]
quoted "This is where we either blend into God's will or not.... The "NOT" has a rather nasty, ending and comes with very bad odds...."
Nasty stuff Kerm. What sort of nasty ending will I bring upon myself through my insistence on being an athiest*? Is it a threat? {how is it NOT a threat?}. The end of life is one mystery we know nothing about, and yet many people insist on having a idea that we go somewhere and meet god after dying. That fits so neatly into our insecurity and fears of the unknown after death , with an answer that will calm us down and gives us courage to face death.
Gees, bug off!! People had no insecurity about death until you started talking like that. we allways knew the animals went peacefuly into death and that we could o the same without any extra fears, its just a natural and nessessary cycle of life that allows new memebers to be born and live for awhile and give birth, its just all so sensible. And perfectly acceptable too all, until you came along and started in with the mystery and fears that were designed to get memebership numbers up.
* More than "not believing", I am against religions in the way people might be against, for eg., violent criminals: I see it as a dangerous and harmfull entity that is responsible for most of the evil that has befallend humanity thru the ages, and today more than ever.
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