- Why I do not defend Islam in Debate forums - edit by mo123
15 y
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They are a pure waste of time. I use to go there and debate about Gaza and a long time very good friend Candiancontext and I are no longer friends. Oh yeah we speak but not like before. I am sorry for that loss indeed as he is the one who guided me to wellness. I switched to fruits and changed my diet a lot thru his guidance.
I then use to fight Peggyaus on a daily basis and atleast Peggy was kind. Yeah, she beats me up all the time but she has a good heart. At the end of the day, me and her kiss and makeup. If I attack her in the debates she backs down and submits. She is a good person. lol, don't tell her I said that. Yeah, Peggy, you are still banned from my forum but I respect you as a person.
So then I was defending Tony Isaacs in his numberous fights but I found it was self defeating. What does that mean, well It means I was the one getting sick. I had a relapse of my dementia and took me a few weeks to get my speech back and I figured from that day that debates were a waste of time.
You will see I get attacked all the time and I just plain don't answer. why, because they only get worse. If I go the fight gets bigger. As I get mad all of curezone attacks me so it is safer in my closet by myself for surely you will get tired eventually and leave. I am not going anywhere.
So many times I have defended people and tried to help them and I found that it is a never ending battle.
Well I got banned from ML, in my early days here on curezone and I was devistated but you know what I got well when I left his forum and it was for the best. I was on my own and came up with my own protocol so I thank God for being banned from there. But I want to give him an olive leaf today as I see a small amount of what he is going thru as many are attacking him. I get attacked all the time by many and be some individuals that I banned but hey I don't really care. But I feel bad for ML as being constantly attacked is no fun. We want to get back to a normal life.
GRZ, my friend told me once, I think you are wrong. ALLAH does not need to be defended. So he is right and I quit running to defend Islam. There will always be those who hate Islam. They associate Iran, Afghanistan, and many sharia states as part of Islam. They associate the 9/11 bombers as part of Islam and that is just a big fat lies. Everything in the news they want to run and post this is Islam. This is not what Islam is and like Grz told me don't worry about it so I don't.
So for all those trying to insite me to come to the debates, sorry, you wasted your dime. I ain't coming.
Yeah I know you guys have hundreds of ids but eventually you will get tired and go away and attack someone else. So hmmmmm, ditto.
I recently almost died from a failed water fast but thanks to curezone while I am recovering I am being attacked again in the Islamic forum. But hey I can only say DITTO> What does that mean, well instead of running over there to fight over stupid people's comments I ask Allah to return the same insult to you and your's.
Hey, oh never mind I was just kidding. lol,
SARA
EDIT: I have edited out what happened here on the forum from the accused poster as I feel it should be kept private. I have forgiven him and gone on and I am hoping he does the same.
I never will tolerate such behavior from anyone. Anyone wanting to play games, should not ever come to this blog or any forum I moderate as I have no patience for such things.
It is common practice on the internet to play such games but it is an insult to me, to my upbringing and to my religion.
Understand that I do try to forgive, but no not forget.
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- Re: Why I do not defend Islam in Debate forums by luvjoy
15 y
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Hi Sara,
Yes, if you really believe something there is no need to defend it - ML has been posting about this quite often lately.
My guru Byron Katie says that without a "defense" there can be no war - I think she goes so far as to say that defense is the first act of war - meaning that before someone defends himself, the other person is just being an ass or an idiot or a bully - but there is no war.
Love you. So happy you "get" this concept.
M
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- Re: Why I do not defend Islam in Debate forums by mo123
15 y
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Thank you Luvjoy, this user has taken me to the webbie debate to the webbie support 3 times and then to Miss H forum and each time I sit quiet in my world but today I said this is the best response.
Like Ml, and others we get attacked for who we are and who are religion is so to make the war bigger and resort to name calling is beyond me. Some ask me why I don't fight well it is just futile. There is always someone with more friends or bigger mouth. The other day a man told me to take the stick out of my arsh and I did not comment to him as earlier he insulted me more and it just would get nasty. Sometimes it is best to just go away but I just wanted the people to know the real story.
As Muslims we do not date, our marriages are arranged sort of and for someone to use those words with me is like the greatest insult in the whole world. All the time I have been on curezone no one ever has done that to me. The only time he ever came to my blog or forum was to throw these insults and yet he told me, I lost a good friend. Pardon me, what is this? Widow yes, desperate no.
SARA
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- Re: Why I do not defend Islam in Debate forums by evanluck
15 y
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I am happy that you seem to have regained your peace with this decision.
What we resist persists...many times there are those who would bait you into an argument. Then they take the energy of the argument and grow stronger while you grow weaker.
It is true what Grz says. God is great...so great that he does not require us to defend him. God is glorified when those who acknowledge him and live in relationship with him thrive and become examples for the rest of the world to see.
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- Re: Why I do not defend Islam in Debate forums by mo123
15 y
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Thank you Evanluck. that is very kind of you and very reassuring. Quite honestly for someone like me, a strong individual, it is really quite difficult and agonizing. It takes more strength to be quiet than to yell and scream. But I found that number one Allah does not like people who argue and will go away from them till they stop. Number two, the one who yells the loudest is not the one who is right and number three it is self defeating.
I have been watching the abuse ML is going thru and I see that no matter what he does or anyone else does, it doesn't matter so I learned from him that we should not be like the devil and be better than that so I am learning.
Before I use to argue with everyone. I just hurt myself. I made a lot of enemies along the way too. I have made decisions and like a warrior I stick by them. It is better to not say anything and allow God to correct your situation rather than running and making enemies out of a lot of people.
I find most people get angry and then forget anger but if you have a big argument, your words cannot be taken back. So in my older age of 55 I now find that being quiet suits me more and forgiving all. I don't hold grudges but I don't forget either. I just want to have peace and quiet in my life and if that means being alone well then so be it, it will be a quiet blog.
Tear, tear
God Bless you Evanluck,
SARA
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