Date:   11/19/2005 11:02:53 AM ( 20 y ago)
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I am patriotic because I *CARE*. I do care about the troops too. Its one thing to die for a noble cause...this seems to be a move to force the rest of the world (where oil exists under the ground) to accept our military bases and our way of life. Depleted uranium will kill more people for generations than Saddam ever could. If they had found WMD there might have been some justification but there are also rumors that PATRIOTS stopped others from *planting* weapons. Our allies have been found planting bombs in Iraq in an effort to foment more war and a taste for it back home.

I lived in Fayetteville, NC, home to Fort Bragg. I lived among Military families. Many cannot stand behind the reasons we are fighting. They feel cheated and betrayed. This two week military exercise is going on two years and will continue until we stop.

If you were offended by the photos on the website then you are indeed in denial. Our *kids* look as bad laying there bleeding to death. Mothers, well it is generally a universal feeling, they give life...and so Mothers will try to find a different way to accomplish finding peace. I used to go to sleep at night in Fayetteville with the practice bombing shaking the house. They practiced day and night but night was especially poignant since you knew over in Iraq the bombs were real and that people were trying to sleep through their fear and wondering what the morning would bring...consciousness or death.

It is normal to have different points of view so I do accept that you feel strongly about how you feel. I am assuming it is pro-democracy rather than pro-death. I am pro-democracy, but am also pro-life, or more correctly, pro-peace. I am also an advocate for truth in all its gory glory so that if there are more sites which display the gore of war, perhaps we would lose the stomach for blowing humans to bits and calling it victory. Its more like war-rage now since our military is not really suited to be fighting a guerrila war anyway. There has to be a better way, or we all lose, no matter what we call it.

As for the pictures of the death and destruction being one sided well, it is what it is. Just as the hundreds of pictures of the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina could be said to only show the destruction, but that is what the hurricane and the flooding did...it destroyed. Likewise, the War is demonstrating that our method for implementing democracy in Iraq is not working. It wont work in Iran or Syria, or North Korea either. I want our military to come home. I do support them, just in a different way. As it is, I think that our administration dishonors them by not even allowing there to be any notice of their sacrifices relative to the President attending any funerals or other such displays of recognition....

During the Vietnam War, songs like Country Joe's played on the radio. There were many anti-war songs. Who knows, if those artists and others had not found their voice, perhaps we would still be slugging it out on a campaign that that war could have initiated. As is it, we have Vietnam vets chorusing "bring our boys home...".
And these days, you rarely here anti-war songs on the radio because the stations fear reprisals and other political agendas prevail...

Truth hurts sometimes...but it is always better than a lie in the long run. My concern is that in hearing the lies long enough, hard enough, that we begin to believe them. I am grateful to those in the past and in the present who will still have enough pride and courage to stand up to those who would lie to cover up the truth.

For the record, I would have been against the Crusades too...

Peace


"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
-- John F. Kennedy

"More than an end to war, we want an end to the beginning of all wars -- yes, an end to this brutal, inhuman and thoroughly impractical method of settling the differences between governments."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt.

"Bring 'em on!"
--George W. Bush
 

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