Date:   7/22/2008 12:52:24 AM ( 17 y ago)
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Hello Quinta_Essentia,

Thank you for your comment... and for showing your true colors.

lol...Your house of cards is shaking, too... you are no different than the elitists, and the power hungry politicians that you talk up against... you were probably there hammering the nails into the hands of Jesus too, saying he was a sick freak leading the people to revolt against the Holy Roman Empire and against the traditional values of the Jews.

You are a product of what the so-called religions have been doing to this society and to others societies around the world.

My view of Osho does not come through hearsay as does yours... I had to travel to see the man for myself... to see with my own eyes... and not through the eyes of others... or through the eyes of some mainstream media show.

To me, Osho/Rajneesh was like the eye of a hurricane... the bad weather was only made up by the unenlightened that had gathered around him... all the trouble you've heard about was the creation of those ignorant fools that you believe to be telling you the truth.... just more crap to make yourself feel more righteous... just like the other members that make up that lynch mob.

History tells us time and time again that the enlightened cannot be accepted by their contemporaries. For they have always been in this world well ahead of their time. A couple hundred years has yet to pass before humanity will see how dreadfully wrong the mob mind had been about this man.

With Osho comes a new vision:
The opposites are not really opposed to each other, they are complimentary.

Ordinarily, one person is a saint and another person is the sinner. This is what the so-called religions have done to humanity today. Without the saint, the sinner will not exist. One person suppresses his sinner in order to become a saint, and the sinner pops up somewhere else in somebody else. This is the game you are playing, Quinta Essential. You are the saint, pointing the finger at Osho, the sinner.

With Osho comes a more realistic and mature view, a view that will allow humanity to remain more sane: The saint is also the sinner.

When young, be young. When old, be old. Otherwise you will be a mess. And a mess looks ugly. Seasons are beautiful when they come at the right time.

When someone is in their youth, the time of youth should be enjoyed. Instead, in this day and age, this society has the person in their youth forcing him to grow up earlier than normal. When youth passes, then it is gone... if you were not there to enjoy your youth, it will remain incomplete... it will remain as a hangover when you become older. Then old people will be hankering for the days when they had their youth. Then, an old man will want to act like a young boy... he will be taking v1agra when the time has come for sex to normally be finished... this man will look ugly. Hence, the name "dirty old man" that society has come up with to describe an old man that still hankers after sex when the time has come to prepare for his death.

And old woman can look beautiful. But if she's trying to look young by painting her face, then she looks strange... out of context.
An old person can look beautiful if they have lived life. If he has not lived, then he wants to cling to some past moment that is no more there.
When sex has passed, and it should have passed when one has lived, one naturally moves to old age. If one prevents himself from going into sex naturally, then the energy becomes perverted. When it becomes perverted, then it looks ugly. Then, the urge to complete the time for sex will continue on into a later phase of one's life.

Perhaps, this is why you heard stories of rape and molestations. Certainly, such things may have gone on... but, I say, most assuredly these uglinesses were not caused to be perverted by Osho, nor caused to be created by Osho. These perversions are no doubt the consequences of what the so-called established religions have done to members of this society and to others. People had already been perverted before they came to Osho... perverted by the societies, like that you have supported in the past and are continuing to support to this day.

Mankind has been taught to suppress so much of himself that it is very difficult for him to act natural. To be normally healthy in his actions. He has become quite perverted and made schizophrenic. You can thank your so-called present day religions for this. And the politicians along with the priests that are in conspiracy together to keep the average Joe confined into this way of thinking, in keeping his energies perverted and to keep him in the mess that he is in.

It is by disease that health is pleasant. Sometimes is it good to be ill. Nothing wrong in it. A healthy person is bound to fall ill sometimes. But you have a different idea about this. You think that a healthy person should always be healthy, but this is not possible. Only a dead person is never ill. But a healthy person is bound to be ill sometimes. And from illness he will be healthy again.

Osho teaches that life has a rhythm, a man who has lived his life, lives through times of misery and the times of pleasure, times of being good and times of being evil, through the peaks and the valleys of himself, he will come to know that the suffering exists to make himself blissful. The night exists to give him a new day. Because bliss cannot exist without suffering. Hence suffering exists. And this is how the consciousness of man grows.

The life is not stagnated. It is always moving from one extreme into the other. To be moving shows that it is alive. To always be a saint, and one will have only become a dead saint.

So now you have another first hand report from one of those that were there... except this one refutes the garbage that you have borrowed from others... and believe to be true.

- turiya -*-

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