What seems to work for me to get the most stones out when I flush is every time I drink the ES, I rub tiger balm under my ribcage over my liver. That and I have a conversation with my liver and try to really focus on asking it to release as many stones as possible. Other people have also used castor oil packs with success. I think maybe also the effect of massaging the area while putting the balm on helps. Just a thought and good luck with the rest of your flush!