I'd say forget the toothpaste and simply brush w/soap. I started using soap for first time in my life 2 wks ago and it is truly amazing! My teeth have never felt cleaner and I've been able to eliminate several other steps from my daily oral regimen (time saver). Not to mention the extra cost of toothpastes, rinses, etc. Now it's oil pulling twice a day and brushing w/soap. And I'm a person where the dentist's office/chair was my "home away from home".