Re: Framing the Issues

yes I am absolutely willing to discuss my beliefs. we don't have to have any limitations to any topic. Whatever you want to discuss is fine with me.
Truth is just as it is. I for example believe that all of us know truth. whether we admit it or not. The bible says God put the knowledge in us to know what truth is.
Jesus Christ, the bible is more different than any other religion or belief in the entire world. There is nothing comparable to it. For example, all of the other religions were just done by man. You can go visit their grave stones. Jesus rose from the dead. It was also predicted he would do that in the old testament before he ever came. Even his death down to the details of his legs not being broken was prophesied in the bible thousands of years before he was even born.
Murder is the taking of innocent lives. This however does not apply to war. Due to the fact that war is a time that both sides suffer in order to protect the citizens and future of a country.
As far as abundant food? I'm not sure what you mean here. The poisoning of our fish is due to oil spills or men contaminating the earth we live in all in the name of becoming richer. This world is a product of man's free will. It wasn't meant to be this way in the beginning. As far as increasing population, the first guy to mention this problem was thomas malthus a british presbytarian minister. He said the available food supply increases slowly while the population increases quickly. so if nothing happens like war, or disease, the food supply will eventually run out and there will be a famine until enough of the population have died (mostly working class). So the available food can take care of the people that are left. Then the cycle starts all over again. His "findings" even influenced Charles Darwin and played a big part in his role of "survival of the fittest".
Only problem with this guy was none of his predictions came to pass. Although he was scared of overpopulation he still didn't believe in contraception. He believed people needed to control themselves. (not very realistic).
He also failed to take into account the social and technological changes. The truth is that 38 million British people in that time (that's what he was) in 1901 were much better off than the population of 12 million were in 1801.
Modern teachings on this subject are influenced by that book called Population Bomb. He predicted scary regional and world wide disasters even if the population rate stopped quickly.
Let's look at one thing Paul wrote here: " The battlefield of all humanity is over. In the 1970's the world will undergo famines -hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. " Did it happen? No. '
He also predicted that 65 million americans would starve to death in the 1980's and ..bye 1999 America's population would drop to about 22 million. ( It's over 250 million right now). he also said England would cease to exsist by the year 2000. And...it's too late to prevent widespread starvation in India.
He was wrong!
Now, it's true that there are problems with poverty and poor food distribution in the world, but let's focus our attention on fixing the problems (poverty and distribution difficulties) rather than aborting or sterilizing the people suffering the most from the problems. And if anyone suggests that abortion is OK in countries like these, or that it is criminal for people living there to keep having children, ask them this: how they are contributing to solving the problem? How many children are they sponsoring or villages are they contributing to through Caritas, World Vision, Tear Fund, Compassion International, etc? How are they giving from their own excess to help those with less? Would they rather help fix things or just sit back in their comfortable First World wealth and tell the people in these poor countries how to attack the symptoms?