Re: Um a question please....

I think there is a definite fear that the debate on such a topic as abortion could easily get out of hand and become a very temperamental and militantly argued subject, so I can understand "control". I think it might be beneficial to remember that abortion is a many-faceted subject because there can be different reasons. It seems that the consensus is that everyone is qualified to pass judgement on the other person's personal decisions and actions because everyone regards themselves as avenging/defending the 'universal code of justice and decency'. That may or may not be a just cause or true (based on your own personal philosophy), but the HOSTILITY itself is what keeps the debating from leading to mutual agreements and constructive conclusions. The objective of the debate should not be (in the interests of us the spectators) the consideration of only PRO-LIFE versus PRO-CHOICE, the objective should be THE [life long] LIVES of the EFFECTED (the babies). Since you and I haven't been aborted, we have to question how much of a right WE actually have to oppose this injustice/tragedy SO FEROCIOUSLY while we let wars, corruption, poverty, homelessness, etc. continue unchecked and without our personal protest. I can imagine that a POSSIBLE majority of aborted babies are in fact better off (for all intents and purposes) not being born (which is what I was getting at when I indicated that I'm not sure if I would be better off being aborted). It is our hostilities towards each other and our neglect to support family programs and our failure to protest injustice that increases the likelihood that the unaborted will not have the quality of life that makes life fulfilling. So, while I agree that killing the defenseless is wrong, the alternative cannot always be thought of as a gift to them (we can't accurately predict the quality of life, but we have a fair idea about the amount of indifference present in life) unless we ourselves are continuously active and successful in improving the quality of life.

Maybe not very often (it is not necessarily realistic, only food for thought), but, in my lifetime, I have heard people say "I wouldn't bring a baby into a world like this".

I used to yell about abortion (or at least felt compelled to, yet was never really enthusiastic about opposing it because quality of life is not assured) about the injustice of abortion, but am now self-conscious about it.