A Scalar wave without Orgone will only promote DOR which inturn has bad effects on health and life. This is why Orgone is used in the Terminator. Not only does Orgone get pumped into the body by the scalar energy from the Mobius but the Orgone cleanses the dor in ORGONE so not DOR can be infused via the device into the body! So really going out and making large mobius coils isn't as good for your health unless you infuse them with ORGONE as well.