Like an idiot I dove for a ball in softball...and my shoulder was killing me...I went to the conventional doctor only to have him diagnose my shoulder as having gout...(yeah that is what I thought too!...what a more-on...so much for that HMO doc...)...finally the little light bulb went on in my head that when I had my back injury the regular doctors didn't help any...but the chiropractors did...and within weeks my shoulder was back closer to normal...now there is no pain at all...