Look at the source! Both meant to place doubt, to plant seeds of disruption , doesnt matter that these types of posts are undefensible they still accomplish their goal even if they throw off only a few uninformed people who could benefit by wholistic endeavors! That same vitamin E study has been thrown on the table before and its been debunked just as many times before, yet some still see fit to repost it! The echinecia thing about neck fat !!! what a fluke , who takes echinnecia for neck fat! Ludicrous and a waste of time! I wish I could no vote this post twice!