LIstening to Biden on the sunday news, this guy needs to go also, but not to the whitehouse. If he runs, he's charge is that George did not leave enough troops there and that we need to plan on staying there for 10 years and spend a lot more than George is planning on spending with a lot more troops. Between this and that RAVE act that he is reponsible for, Biden is out of touch with reality. I hope the Democrats don't force me to choose between George and Joseph. Maybe if that's our only choices people will wake up and choose a third party.