I don't have time to write it all out again, but if you can click on "all msgs from d-" then part of my question should be there, in the skin problems forum. since i wrote it under that subject though, i didn't emphasize the PMS parts so much. which would include my cycle commonly skipping 1 to 4 months, though the "symptoms" would still persist (sometimes not even going away, whether i have a period or not). i had tried Chaste Tree before, and often throw Dong Quai into my tea. The best my cycle had been (meaning pretty regular and not too tramatic) was while making a tea of tumeric root, dong quai, schisandra berry, ginger and cinnamin, pretty consistantly for a month or so. though at the time i was in Hawaii and had worked at a ginger/tumeric farm, so it was very accessible. anyways, i don't get the heavy drawn-out menstruation, but the type that seems to stop short and be incomplete. does this sound like anything typical?? in the other msg i mention a surgery to remove a dermoid cyst, which was in March of 2002. this computer is on a timer, gotta go...