Thanks for the info

Sorry - I forgot to mention that I started P&B shakes a few weeks back. I stopped them last week because I actually thought I was getting worse. My Coptis and Gold Coin Grass arrived yesterday. I took Coptis last night and managed to get to sleep after an hour. No pain today, but it usually doesn't start until afternoon and lasts several hours. I'm also wearing extremely loose clothing today! My current plan is to hold off on the Gold Coin Grass until taking the Coptis a few days.

It occurred to me that I had very little pain Saturday and none on Sunday. Monday was horrible. Do you think sitting most of the day could be a factor? I get some exercise during the week, but most activity is on the weekend.