Re: What is the evidence that Soy is bad?

First of all, of course it is agreed that the vast majority of soy products are bad because they are Mansato Corp. genetically engineered products. Secondly, the vast majority of non-genetically engineered products are laden with toxic pesticides and herbicides. Therefore, they are also very bad. Third, it is also agreed that those who promote soy infant formuala over Mother's milk are totally full of BS. Forth, it is agreed that the soy industry is very powerful and will go to all lengths to make their profits increase. (But... nothing compared with the meat packing industry; who, by the way, could be behind the vast majority of those negative articles. Especially since soy products have begun making a small, but significant, dent in their market and profits.) Fifth, I am relatively convinced that soy products are definitely not a "super-food" or useful for those seeking "optimum health". However, when skimming through the "evidence" (Admittedly I didn't thoroughly read it all), although I found some convincing arguments for concern,I did not find any conclusive evidence that organically grown soy beans or soy products are harmful or disease causing, especially when compared with the alternative.

We know for a fact that meat products cause all kinds of diseases, which I won't even bother to list because it would take up too much space. We also know that the largest consummer of soy products (and I'm not talking about organic soy) is cattle and other livestock raised for human consumption. We also know a little about the food chain--that the higher up the food chain we eat, then the more concentrated the pollutents in the lower food chain foods will be. In other words, all the pesticides, herbicides, and other bad things in the soy, will be stored in the fat of the animals we eat in much greater concentrations. So, if you really have a problem with eating soy, then you should also quit eating livestock. Or, at least, you should find other sources of food for your livestock. When examining the matter from a health point of view, and given a choice between meat and soy, I would much rather take my chances with the somewhat "questionable nutritional value" of soy than with the guaranteed disease-causing qualities of most meats.

Furthermore, I personally know hundreds of moderate soy eating people (tofu, soy milk, tempeh, soy bean curd, soy proteins, soy sauce, tamari, etc. etc.) who have been consuming these products for much more than 1/4 of a century, myself included. For the most part, they are in much better health than their meat-eating counterparts. So, please tone down the scare tactics.

Saying all of that, I am interested in the possible link between soy and long-term thyroid dysfunction or other possible long term
effects. Hope I didn't come off too heavy, and apologize if I did. One can't believe everything he reads, and must often consider the source and the motivation of the source before accepting. And, we often have to filter threw a lot of BS before we arrive at a few nuggets of truth.
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