"Let's say I'm in a room with Bergman or Kurosawa, and they have achieved this [greatness], but ultimately they're going to the same place I'm going to. You understand that art doesn't save you. It doesn't save me. So then I think to myself, What's the value? After Kurosawa sits back and says, 'Yes, Rashomon - I did a very fine job there,' what happens? He still has to come home, you know, and eat his bowl of rice, and down the line, they bury him."