Lapis, I happen to disagree with you. This forum and I believe all of curezone is meant to help people who are suffering from health issues. I have written in the Candida Forum , the leaky gut forum, this forum and a few others in search of what will cure me. If I knew how to cure myself, I would not be here. Ooopsadaisy's post was actually helpful for me. I don't believe he/she was meaning to debate, but rather to help me.