Re: Christian hate!

>>Theses posts are nothing but propaganda filtered through the mind of fear this has >>nothing to do with evolution or creationism , just christian hate and propaganda!


Not true #57777...the discussion of Creationism or Intelligent Design. Creationism is based on Christian beliefs, and also theist beliefs.

The topic became lost, when when certain people became inflamed by seeing one more of these words "Christ", "Christian" or "God" in their description of Creationism.

I am sure people are willing to discuss your islamic view of creationism also.

where would you like to start number #57777 ?

Befor you ask the question. I will answer it now..."Yes I have read the quran, and also many other religious books.

Allah's Flat Earth and His Cosmos?

The Earth is flat and mountains are pegs

The Quran



· Earth spread out (like a carpet), mountains firm…15:19

[al-Hijr 15:19] And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon mountains firm and immovable; and produced therein all kinds of things in due balance.

· God made earth like a carpet spread out…20:53

[Ta Ha 20:53] "He Who has, made for you the earth like a carpet spread out; has enabled you to go about therein by roads (and channels); and has sent down water from the sky." With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants each separate from the others.

· The earth is like a carpet spread out…43.10

[az-Zukhruf 43:10] (Yea, the same that) has made for you the earth (like a carpet) spread out, and has made for you roads (and channels) therein, in order that ye may find guidance (on the way);

· Allah spread out earth and set mountains standing firm…50: 7

[Qaf 50:7] And the earth- We have spread it out, and set thereon mountains standing firm, and produced therein every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs)-

· Allah has spread out the earth…51:48

[adh-Dhariyat 51:48] And We have spread out the (spacious) earth: How excellently We do spread out!

· Allah made the earth a carpet…71:19

[Nuh 71:19] "'And God has made the earth for you as a carpet (spread out),

· Allah made the earth as a wide expanse…78:6

[an-Naba' 78:6] Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse,

· The earth is made as a wide expanse…79:30

[an-Nazi`at 79:30] And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);

· Allah set up mountains firm lest the earth shake…16:15

[an-Nahl 16:15] And He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and rivers and roads; that ye may guide yourselves;

· Allah set on mountains high lest the earth shake with them…21:31

[al-Anbiya' 21:31] And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance.

Allah set mountains immovable…27.61

[an-Naml 27:61] Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides God? Nay, most of them know not.

· Allah set mountains firm for earth not to shake…31:10

[Luqman 31:10] He created the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; He set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you; and He scattered through it beasts of all kinds. We send down rain from the sky, and produce on the earth every kind of noble creature, in pairs.

· Allah put mountains standing firm…77:27

[al-Mursalat 77:27] And made therein mountains standing firm, lofty (in stature); and provided for you water sweet (and wholesome)?

· Allah put mountains as pegs…78:7

[an-Naba' 78:7] And the mountains as pegs


Sahih Bukhari:


I could not find much reference to mountains as pegs in Sahih Bukhari. But the following ahadith talk indirectly about the flatness of the earth.


· Allah will take the whole world in His hand and will roll up heaven in his right hand…76:526

Volume 8, Book 76, Number 526:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Allah will take the whole earth (in His Hand) and will roll up the Heaven in His right Hand, and then He will say, "I am King! Where are the kings of the earth? "