I see,I'm hard pressed on all four corners,even the numbers person came out the cuts to take a jab at this one,, , OK,OK U guys wanna jump a-brotha,,JUST KIDDING,I see what u guys are saying, but like the numbers person said, that if u receive Christ an refuse water baptism just out of your own reasoning then there was no true salvation,does that mean that person won't be saved because he refused water baptism ? Just trying to understand,,,,,,, P's how do u guys move other peoples questions an answers to your reply it sher would be a lot easier, I have to right down what u guys say on paper an retype it,how do u guys do that