Hi MTAB, no worries man, tbh on a forum like this its sensible to be skeptical otherwise we would have spent 1000's on products and spent all of our time doing stool tests and Liver Flushes so I understand haha. Hopefully I'll update again in a couple of weeks where i'm fully healed (fingers crossed), i can say though without a doubt that parts of my lip which had ec on earlier this year, when the actual lip skin healed has been completely free of it and has not not come back so I'm definitely on the right track, just waiting for the whole lip to heal before I claim i'm 100% cured