I'm getting sick of the bikering myself. I'm just trying to help people because I remember being so sick, near, death, hysterical and desperate for answers and this is where I found them. From people who went through it.I thought the other fourm was the support forum so I thought you could discuss either method. I use both so I think both are valid and have their place. This isn't about egos it's about helping people who have nowhere else to turn and the people that distract from that and deliberately confuse people don't belong here. I would have drank the blue cool aid if I thought I would be cured in the beginning. You're so distraught you can't even think. It is never that easy.