It took me a few years to find a chiropractor who helped me. He is an ex-trauma surgeon who became a chiro here. It would take him 7 yrs to become a surgeon again. Most of the chiro don't make things worse ( don't help either). One massotherapeut said that local chiros trained to produce result slowly. I never tried though if after 5 visit I did not see changes, no repeat. With this chiro I felt results immediately. I know that one fellow came the whole way from Seattle to see him. (would have to stay 2 months and work remotely)