Dedication:
Posted in memory of my dad, a wonderful man, Paul T. who died from lung cancer at a young age and whose tragedy set me off on a search through alternative health that is now in its 33rd year. All those I helped over these years, my dad has a share in this.
I urge the incurables program for anyone with lung cancer and when I saw the save your li_fe videos on it, I knew I had at long last found the answer I had searched for in vain all those years ago. If you would like the chapter on lung cancer from the save your l*fe manual, send me an email address and I will send it through an attachment.
see the next post for more
And now unto the interview:
"This herb can help a friend or loved one stop smoking
- and SAVE THEIR LIFE!"
The #1 cancer killer in men and women is lung cancer. Someone you know probably has it growing in their lungs right now!
Women get more breast cancer, but more women die from lung cancer. Men get more prostate cancer, but more men die from lung cancer.
This year, 500,000 people will die from cancer, FAST and PAINFULLY Learn about an herb, lobelia inflata, that can help people stop smoking - after the "patch" and all willpower have failed.
This herb is very powerful, and very unpopular. You will not read about it elsewhere. Herbalists and medical officials are convinced it is toxic. They are both wrong.
Lobelia is one of the great lifesavers, and it can cause people who have tried and failed, and failed again, to quit smoking for good. Lobelia is not a cure for lung cancer, but it can sure make you want to quit - before the cancer starts growing.
In this exclusive interview with medical herbalist Dr.Richard Schulze, let's learn how to stop tobacco from killing hundreds of thousands of men and women.
SCHULZE: All the other herbalists are afraid to touch certain herbs. We saw it with chaparral, when chaparral was politically incorrect. And for five years, American herbalists abandoned it. Well, lobelia has been politically incorrect for 20 years.
INTERVIEWER: What's the problem? It's just an herb.
SCHULZE: Well, it's a strong herb. And see, with chaparral the herbalists complied and stopped using it, but after a five-year period, it was realized that the herb wasn't harmful, and now it's back in vogue again.
SCHULZE: But lobelia's a much stronger herb than chaparral. It's one of the strongest herbs. Now Sam, we should mention: the phytochemicals in lobelia are called alkaloids. And alkaloids are one of the strongest plant chemicals of all the thousands of plant chemicals.
They're one of the very strongest. And lobelia has 14 known alkaloids. So that makes lobelia one of the strongest plants in the plant world that we know of.
INTERVIEWER: On the planet?
SCHULZE: That's right. One of the most powerful. There's only a few plants that have more alkaloids, and one of them is the opium poppy, where we get morphine and codeine and the other extremely strong alkaloids from. Of course, these are controlled by the government.
Medical people have decided to have a war against lobelia and people have been hassled for manufacturing formulas with it, even though technically, it's legal in America.
Herbalists are afraid to touch it because they might get slammed by a medical group and it's considered an extremely potent, powerful herb. As we've talked before, potent and powerful means that you will feel something when you take it.
INTERVIEWER: You mean they would rather sell camomile?
SCHULZE: That's right. Because what you don't want legally, when you're treating someone, whether it's an herbal manufacturer or an herbalist, is you don't want a reaction. A reaction means that you could have legal exposure. It's much safer to manufacture or to prescribe herbs to the public that you know they're never gonna have any reaction to, which means you know that they're never gonna do anything.
And the manufacturers and the herbalists in America have pretty much decided across the board to not touch the strong plants. And at the top of the list is lobelia. It's considered extremely politically and herbally incorrect.
Now something that I find very interesting is on the other end of the spectrum, if you go to what's considered the top book of medical chemistry in the United States, the Merck Index and of course the Merck Manual. They state that lobelia is a respiratory stimulant and expectorant. In other words, it stimulates your ability to breathe easier. And it helps you expectorate things that may be in your lungs. Like old tobacco tar.
You are the only publisher I have found who will touch this material. Every other publishing house edits your manuscript, and it comes back looking like it was shot with a machine gun. Legal staffs at the big publishing houses also go through manuscripts, and they will remove anything that they are afraid that the publisher could have any lawsuit on.
INTERVIEWER: So that's why we have all these wellness books.
SCHULZE: Wellness books talking about how to make whole wheat muffins and cranberries for your kidney ailments. Because all the good stuff that was ever in there never made it past the legal staff and the editors. They took it right out. Lobelia would never be touched. I rarely even see cayenne touched by most publishing houses.
Most herbalists don't want to write about it, because they haven't used it; they have no experience in it, and, even if they had a clinic, they didn't use it with their patients. But most herbalists never worked with the really sick and the dying, and when you're working with the sick and dying, you have to have herbs that are strong enough to bring people back to life.
INTERVIEWER: What do you see with lobelia, Richard?
SCHULZE: Lobelia has those alkaloids and one of them, called lobeline, is similar to the alkaloid nicotine. So it stimulates your body in a similar way, although it's not harmful to you. It doesn't have any tar, because you're not smoking a cigarette.
What I did in the clinic was I would give people tincture of lobelia. And tell them to start increasing their dosage of the tincture while they're tapering off their cigarettes.
Most people weren't successful stopping cigarettes cold turkey. That means stopping all at once. These are the peoplethat can put their mind to something and do it no matter what. That wasn't the vast majority of my patients.
Anybody out there reading this who is tough, who can put their mind to it and never do it again, I suggest you stop cigarettes immediately and go on to a dosage of lobelia, 5-10 drops of strong lobelia tincture any time you're going to have a cigarette. We're talking drops now, not dropperfuls, drops; just put it in a little water and knock it back.
INTERVIEWER: What happens?
SCHULZE: The first thing they'll notice is a little itching or burning on the back of their throat. That's what the lobeline does. It's very similar to where if you were to chew a little tobacco and swallow, you would have a little itching or burning on the back of the throat.
INTERVIEWER: In fact, it is called ludian tobacco.
SCHULZE: That's right. In fact, there is a history in America of people smoking lobelia, and noticing that after they smoked it, they got a high such as you get with tobacco but also that their lungs opened up. So what we're doing is we're consuming it in the liquid form so there's no harm to the lungs whatsoever, no tar into the lungs.
In fact, as you start using lobelia it'll help you get rid of the tar in your lungs. So the people that are strong willed, they can just stop the cigarettes immediately. When they want their next cigarette, take 5-10 drops of lobelia tincture.
INTERVIEWER: What happens, you just don't want to smoke?
SCHULZE: You don't have any desire to take on that cigarette. Of, for the first couple days you miss that hand tomouth, you know, I mean cigarette smoking becomes something that's, you know, exotic, sexua| and sensual. You know, from the lighters and the accoutrements and the cigars or the cigarette holders. But the reality is that lobelia stops the physical urge for wanting that cigarette and for wanting that nicotine and the other chemicals that are in cigarettes.The urge drops off.
After a few days, they'll notice they don't even want a cigarette any more.
INTERVIEWER: I noticed that you get kind of nauseous?
SCHULZE: Yes. If you do go to smoke cigarettes, it'll make you feel like throwing up for wanting a cigarette. This is better than the drugs people get that are supposed to do the same thing.
For readers who say, "Look, I can't do it, I have to do the reduction method," then the best way is look at how many cigarettes you smoke, and if a person smokes 20 cigarettes aday, you would take a cigarette less a day. So the first day you would smoke 19 cigarettes; when you want to smoke, take a dose of lobelia. The next day you would smoke 18 cigarettes, and where you have two missing cigarettes, take lobelia instead.
Make sure that that's the minimum that you do: each day you have one less cigarette, and the idea is within 20 days you'll be smoking no cigarettes. Now some people will find that after they've cut down five or ten cigarettes, they just stop cigarettes altogether and went with the lobelia. That's fine. That's a good plan for a person to set themselves up on, if you have tried to quit before and have not been successful.
The other thing that I would add in here; I'm not some virgin sex counselor. I smoked, starting when my dad died, because he chain smoked all the time he was alive. I couldn't figure this out for years why I started smoking at 11-1/2 yearsold, the minute my father died. I realized I was having nicotine withdrawal. I was breathing his secondhand smoke in our old Ford for 11 years of my life. All of a sudden, my dad was gone. I was having nicotine withdrawals; and the first thing I did was start smoking. I smoked from when I was 11 to when I was about 18.
I was a vegetarian, a vegan (laughter). I had healed everything my life, and I tried to quit smoking eight times and couldn't get off the cigarettes.
INTERVIEWER: Why? People would say lack of willpower.
SCHULZE: I have one of the toughest will powers of anybody I know.
I was absolutely addicted to nicotine, and I could not shake it. I quit smoking seven times and went back to the cigarettes eight times. I want people to know we're not doing this interview here based on some philosophy I'm trying to teach people that I never experienced. I was a loser and I couldn't get off cigarettes.
INTERVIEWER: But is nicotine really that addictive? How would you rank it compared to hard drugs?
SCHULZE: In my clinic, I worked with people that were severely addicted to cocaine in the 70's and 80's, in the Miami Vice era. I worked with people so addicted to heroin, they used to shoot up while they were in a car driving on the freeway. I could tell you some horrendous stories. I have never seen any drug more hard to get off of than nicotine. It's so...
INTERVIEWER: Worse than cocaine?
SCHULZE: Worse than cocaine.
INTERVIEWER: Worse than heroin?
SCHULZE: Worse than heroin. Nothing, nothing comes close to the addictive nature of nicotine. I could hardly get my patients off it until I started using the lobelia.
INTERVIEWER: So we really shouldn't be judging people...
SCHULZE: Never, never. Sam, I'm telling you, in the 60's, they had a drug which was a mixture of cocaine and heroin called speedballs. And that drug was even easier to get off than cigarettes, and that's both heroin and cocaine.
I have never seen anything like it. I had strong-willed patients that broke down into little babies and would wake up at three in the morning, and walk three miles to try to find a 7-Eleven to get a pack of cigarettes.
INTERVIEWER: How did you find out that lobelia could help?
SCHULZE: I had heard from a few old herbalists that while the person was on lobelia for asthma, or bronchitis, they noticed that as a side effect, some of these people stopped smoking cigarettes and didn't have any trouble doing it.
I thought, "What if we used lobelia on purpose for getting people off the cigarettes?" In my first few attempts in the clinic, I mixed it with other herbs, but after a while, I just gave people straight lobelia tincture and was shocked at how easy it was. Many people just stopped immediately. They didn't even have to do the wean off. They didn't have the physical craving.
If I was to put in one side note of almost a guaranteed failure for people, make sure that during their wean-off period or their cold turkey period, for a couple of weeks, that they stay off alcohol. When people start consuming alcohol, the next thing they know is they want a cigarette. They also have to avoid bars, clubs or restaurants where everybody's smoking.
Usually, when my patients failed, it was usually based around bars and alcohol. A good time to take your lobelia is after a meal, because after a meal is when everybody wants to have a cigarette. Or when the phone rings take your lobelia,because that's when a person would normally light up a cigarette. Or when someone knocks on your door, and usually it's either after a meal or an interaction with another person,when someone lights up a cigarette.
INTERVIEWER: I did some tests with lobelia. I gave it away to a painter doing my kitchen, and to a yard man. They both didn't get off cigarettes. What happened?
SCHULZE: The main reason was that they didn't want to. Natural healing, unlike medicine, depends on the person taking responsibility. Because I can't force anybody to get on a good food program, and cleanse their bowel and their liver. They have to do it themselves. So lobelia, even though I call it a magical herb, and it truly is, it can't force someone to do something against their will.
Some people loved smoking, and they had no reason to quit. Sometimes what's best is to convince someone of the detrimental effects of smoking, get them to where they want to quit. Even if there's just a spark there where they want to quit. Then you bring the lobelia in and you'll have a success case.
INTERVIEWER: Can readers go to a health food store and just get some lobelia tincture?
SCHULZE: They won't be able to find any good stuff. What I've seen is so weak I have taken the whole bottle and could feel nothing.
INTERVIEWER: Is lobelia inflata hard to find?
SCHULZE: Not really. Anybody can grow it. It is not the ground cover lobelia. It's lobelia inflata, the one that has inflated seed pods. That's where the name comes from.
It does grow wild on the eastern coast and in the northeast. Readers can always make their own tincture. If a person finds lobelia for sale, they will often find the dried stalk and a few leaves. This is the weakest part of the plant. The strongest part of the plant is the seed pods with the seeds in them.
That's what you want to attempt to find. They're only available once a year, but if you make enough lobelia tincture you'll have enough for many years. You want the seed pods with the little tiny black seeds inside them. They're so small,they're almost microscopic. You have a dried plant that'll have stalks, a few leaves on it, and all these seed pods attached to it, and that's okay.
Your base would be two-thirds 80 proof vodka or 40% alcohol. Then add one-third organic raw unfiltered apple cidervinegar. That would be your liquid base, and then you would just put in your lobelia until the alcohol just covers it. Let sit for two weeks or more and filter out through cheese cloth The acetic acid in the vinegar helps draw out the lobeline. It helps make the tincture stronger than if you just use alcohol alone.
INTERVIEWER: How bad is lung cancer? What is it like?
SCHULZE: I've seen it eat through the top of the chest, where the cancer, metastasizes, comes right through your ribs, and all of a sudden, the person starts developing what looks like bloody, pussy boils on their chest. And all this fluid starts oozing out right through their chest. Their lungs turn into jello, and meltdown, and this stuff, it's like aliens, like the monster burst through their chest.
INTERVIEWER: What happens in the end? What do your lungs become?
SCHULZE: They become tissue that doesn't absorb oxygen.They become a cancer tumor, which is not like a lung cell. As cancer takes over your lungs, that area of your lungs becomes unusable to assimilate oxygen. It's just like you have less lung, and less lung, and LESS lung.
INTERVIEWER: What happens when you try to breathe?
SCHULZE: You suffocate. It's like going from breathing through a gigantic pipe, to breathing through a garden hose, to breathing through a straw, to breathing through a toothpick, to suffocating. You suffocate.
INTERVIEWER: Have you ever had people in front of you who just couldn't breathe at all?
SCHULZE: Absolutely. Many of them develop enlarged muscles under the rib cage because they're pulling so hard to try to get air in. Even when they get the air in, they're not able to assimilate it and get it into their blood stream. It's a horror. And we haven't even gone down the road of the mouth and throat cancers. I've had people with mouth cancer and tongue cancer so bad, the doctors had cut half their head off. No ear, no jaw, half their nose gone.
You could literally take a softball, not a baseball, but a softball, and put it in their head where the hole was. That's what got carved away from the throat cancer or the tongue cancer.
INTERVIEWER: You mean their tongues were gone?
SCHULZE: Yeah, tongues were gone; all the teeth on one side of their head had to be cut out, their soft palate was gone,maybe they've lost an eye. They've lost an ear. They've lost their jaw.
INTERVIEWER: Oh God!
SCHULZE: I've had patients come in, Sam, that were so bad, I couldn't look' em in the face. Otherwise I would have vomited. This is from what medicine had done with surgery and radiation to try to stop these rapidly-growing cancers that were eating their head off from cigarette smoking.
INTERVIEWER: Sounds like lobelia is a better way to go.
SCHULZE: Amen.
End interview--
this type of lobelia can be found at Dr Schulze's site herbdoc.com
Also a former boyfreind with a 31 year habit quit for me as I was allergfic ot the smoke and wound up in the hospital after beign around his chain smoking.
He quit with the help of herbpharm avena licorice and told me he had no cravings for at least 5 says which amazed me as I had constant cravings when I quit cold turkey a 3 pack a day habit in 1976.
It also contains the lobelia seed pods
http://www.vitacost.com/herb-pharm-smokers-assist-avena-compound-avena-licori...
check around for the best price. Be sure you take it in tincture form and that it is organic or wildcrafted,
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