yeah longterm, i still have that (i was talking about the weird swelling, followed by brown scab reaction that i had that seems to have healed... mind you it's feeling a little swollen again this morning... no idea what the heck is going on there.... but anyway back to what you were saying, my top lip was never really effected much from ec, i kind of have a thin line of buildup that hangs around a part of my top lip that is unnoticable unless i lift up my lip by making a weird facial expression... and the skin is not raw there at all... just a little white line of buildup...