Thanks uchihaMadara & LymegirlPA for your input. I'll check out the malate. Have tried several types of mag in the past, including 29 weekly injections in the butt, with no results. The mag oil really stings my skin. Read on Earthclinic the suggestion of taking the mag oil orally, so tried it. Didn't touch the pain (which is what I was looking for) but was surprised that it helped some with sleep. Then on reading Newport's comment "be prepared to do battle if you supplement with mag" that I made the 'possible' connection, as I have become a lot worse in the past few months. I wish so much I could have better understanding of what he/she meant with that statement. Do you know if Newport is still active on this forum? I only joined yesterday.