Re: logical fallacy of stuck stones

 "Here is a great example. At no time did I ever say that tiny stones cannot be pushed out by these "flushes". What I have consistently said is that those big squishy green blobs..."

Here is a great example of how you try to distort what you have stated in the past. First off you have said that "liver flushes are BOGUS!!!" i.e.(they don't work) if you want people to think you mean otherwise then you should not make statements like this...

Hveragerthi :
"Actually what is really funny is these ridiculous responses from the "liver flush" supporters to divert attention away from the fact that they have no real evidence to the contrary. So their responses just back up my claim that the so-called "liver flushes" are BOGUS!!! Keep up the good work of discrediting "liver flushing" 18839 and Lisamarie. Saves me a lot of work."

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1742652#i


If Liver flushes can push out tiny stones then they do in fact work and they are not bogus.

Seriously be reasonable, You are not always being specific and you have a history of making this type of statement. If all you think is that the "soap stones are not "real gallstones" then you should couch your statements in those terms.

Yes I have stated they are bogus, but I have also stated repeatedly on what basis.  Why should I repeat every last detail and waste so much time when the 'liver flush" supporters are simply going to ignore the specific facts I present anyway?  For example, they are still trying hard to discredit the fact that fecal soaps are real and well known even though I posted various medical journal articles on them for all to see.  Yet the LF supporters continually state that there is no evidence that fecal soaps exist when in fact the evidence to the contrary has been posted over and over.  So should I waste my time re-presenting this evidence each time fecal soaps are mentioned when you and the other LF supporters are simply going to ignore the evidence and argue that it does not exist even though it was already presented multiple times?  I don't think so.  All that boils down to is game playing by the LF supporters since they have no evidence to counter facts I have presented.  So  I am not going to go in to the details of why "liver flushing" is bogus on every post when the LF supporters are simply going to ignore the evidence I present anyway since they know I am right about this but they do not want their cultist beliefs violated.

Bottom line though is that those big green squishy blobs ARE NOT real gallstones, and if real gallstones are present then there is the risk of lodging one in a duct leading to problems such as pancreatitis as one LF supporter recently found out with her trip to the ER.  Her pancreatitis did not occur for no reason.  Whether or not this lodged from a LF or the ingestion of oils/fats in the diet is unknown.  But it does show how real stones can lodge even if the ducts can be stretched to 20mm by force, which clearly does not happen naturally.  But what causes these stones to lodge in the first place are contractions by the gallbladder from the ingestion of oils/fats when real gallstones are present.  A potential anger that the LF supporters keep choosing to ignore.  Therefore, people are putting the health and safety at risk by trying to form large soap stones they can post pictures of online as if in some weird contest to see who can pass the largest soap stone.  That is sick in itself!!!