lol Considering your comparison and what you think constitutes an attack Mira one could make those same claims about you. I guess its good for you that you edited your post, hey mira? Whatever it means.
Comparing Tony's inquiry about spuds health to tiki's out an out slander is quite a stretch and seems to be the problem around here! And my personal opinion about the hvergerthi effect is just that, nothing more and can be backed up with a small amount of research!
One doesn't need to talk to each other like we are conversing with sensitive children to be none confrontational' Which is another problem with people calling opinions personal attacks, which some will never seem to understand ! Challenging a message is not a personal attack, and this is the tactic I see havrgerthi use as does spuds and tiki! They need to read what is being said before claiming to be personally attacked and making false accusation and constantly pressing the alert buttons or these types of whine sessions will never ends!