Re: Would taking MSM help to remove gallstones? - n/m

A scan through the archives reveal that apple juice usage was initiated by much earlier practitioners, probably Dr. Kelley, who ran an underground clinic through the 70s, or other such pioneers like Sam Biser. Dr. Sutter's current protocol uses apple cider -not juice- for three days into which 90 drops of Ultra-Phos (phosphoric acid solution) are added, and it's basically Biser's recipe with all ingredients cut in half. The phosphoric acid is thought to dissolve calcified stones since it's used in dental practice to dissolve teeth enamel. Proponents of these protocols also claim that phosphoric acid relaxes the ducts although there's no scientific support for these claims. Its usage has been decried in some quarters as being the highly acidic component in sodas to blame for kidney stones. Yet the alternative viewpoint coexists --that it can be used to dissolve them. (there's even a circulating kidney stone recipe consisting on just asparagus and Coke !!). The phosphoric acid issue doesn't seem to have been conclusively settled and so remains highly relevant in the Liver Flush discussion- is it harmful or not? I've seen even Moritz holding both positions, first denouncing its presence in sodas as key culprit in kidney stone formation, then on another instance encouraging someone who was planning to take the phosphoric solution as prep for his liver flush.-to enhance the effects of the malic acid in apple juice-. Someone without a gallbladder may not benefit from it as they're free of calcified stones, yet without definite information on its effects on softer stones this is hard to tell. Given that apple juice is commonly used for six days, Sutter's shorter 3-day period implies that it relies on the Ultra-phos to double the strength of malic acid alone.