bromine in bread,MTHFR gene defect and methylation cycle
And another issue is that not all of us have good detoxification pathways. Phase I and Phase II issues are common and if you have the MTHFR gene defect you will not detox easily w/o intervention from outside "products" or what I call "plug in's" to the methylation cycle. I have attached the methylation chart for those who are new to this.
Re: bromine in bread
We are exposed to bromide everyday so some percentage of the bromide excreted daily is what we are exposed to that day. So even if someone were to reach total saturation with iodine there would still be some amount of bromide being excreted every day and that would vary per person based on their individual exposure. I think that is the reason one of the iodine docs wanted to test someone who got a new car to see how the bromide in the new car effected the overall excretion based on a new source of high bromide exposure in their life.
Re: bromine in bread
For what it's worth,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_bromate
Also, some crude numbers;
Assume the same amount of bromine from bread as iodine, 726 ug (0.726 mg) ingested per day
consumed over a 30 year (1980 to 2010) period
gives a total consumption of bromine as 7,950 mg (.726 *365*30)
Given a daily urinary excretion on using Lugol's of 66 mg/L
assume only 1 liter of urine excreted per day
over 2 years
total bromine excreted is 48,180 mg
Please correct me if I am wrong, or unreasonable in my worst case scenario estimates. If Stephanie's lab work is valid (66 mg/l), then in two years, 6 times as much bromine will have been excreted in urine alone as may have been consumed (and assumed to have retained all) from baked goods in 30 years.
To further add to this;
we have been quoted a baseline urine excretion of 24 mg/l,
again assuming 1 liter urine excretion per day,
in only 10 years that gives 87,600 mg excreted.
That is 11 times (87,600/7,950)the total intake, over a 30 year period, from baked goods.
Am I the only one on these lists seeking fact, not hearsay and out right untruths.
P.S. I have issued a challenge on the OT sight to all to assist me in determine what are reasonable assumptions about total intake and total body of of toxins. I have yet to receive a response.
How does one know if bromine is added? Is it in the ingredients? My mom looked at her bread package and said it didn't have but I'm questioning that.
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MTHFR GENE-
Does iodine go in and correct this?
Re: [iodine] MTHFR GENE
No it is a hereditary genetic defect. You must take supplements like 5 Methyl Tetra forms of folate, choline and DMG to get the methylation pathways going.
Re: MTHFR GENE
So...If you haven't had the lab test to see whether the defect is present...and
you are having detox issues (like weight gain!), it would be a good idea to take
the supplements to see if they help?
It's not necessarily the issue. I take DMG Complete which is a product my doctor made and still have issues with weight gain. I think everyone on the group is looking for that magic bullet to make things better. I think it really comes down to diet (low glycemic index and eliminating allergens / sensitivities), exercise and the liver. I'll attached the methylation chart again so you can see where the MTHFR resides. It is in the folate absorption. I am not convinced that this is the answer.
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