You may want to bump this up, with a new title, and to start yet a new thread. This will end up being one of those links we will be linking as often as others, if not more so.
I do not desire to take any credit away from Trapper, (or to Sean, who Trapper credited), but there are some who avoid youtubes, and may have avoided this interview because of that fact. It's actually all interesting stuff, but the Dr Starr interview starts just after the 37 minute mark on your audio....