Re: Which kill pathogens - silver ions or silver particles?

First of all, Wikipedia is not a reputable website.  It is an open source website where literally anyone can go in and edit or post copy to Wikipedia - and many people post self serving information as well as edit out information they do not like.  Try it and see for yourself.  You too can be an "expert" on just about any given subject and post whatever information you like, as well as delete information you don't like.

Both ionic and colloidal silver will kill pathogens.  The first key is getting the silver to the pathogen, and in that regard, colloidal silver is superior when it comes to getting past the chloride contained in stomach acid and the blood.  The second key is particle size.  The smaller the particle, the more surface area per PPM.

If ionic silver is superior, I have to wonder why it is that I have heard so many first hand reports of colloidal silver products being more effective.  Or why colloidal silver does not call itself ionic silver instead of vice-versa.

Here is a laboratory test that is revealing:

http://www.silver-colloids.com/misc/Meso_vs_Sovereign-E-coli.pdf

Yes, that test is posted at a private website, but it was nevertheless a legitimate test by an independent laboratory.  I understand how hard it is to make decisions about silver products based on websites when there are so many silver makers out there making claims that their products are somehow uniquely superior to all others.

For the most part that is just sales hype and most of them really turn out to be ionic silver made via electrolysis.  The two exceptions I know are Purest Colloids Mesosilver (they own the silver-colloids site) and Utopia Silver's Advanced Colloidal Silver, both of which produce true colloidal silver with particle sizes as small as 0.65 nanometer (that is only slightly larger than twice the size of a single silver atom). 

I know the owner of both companies. The Purest Colloids process was designed by an MIT graduate who did work for NASA at a cost of half a million dollars.  The Utopia Silver process was designed by someone with decades of experience with high voltage generators to produce a product that was superior to the ionic process.  The equipment costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.  If ionic silver were superior I have to wonder why those two men went to all the trouble and continue to use a much more expensive process when they could simply invest in sales hype like other companies do and make the cheaper, larger particle ionic silver.

I think it is notable that Utopia Silver, which does have a truly superior product, makes no such claims and has an absence of hype on their website.  The owner, who is a personal friend of mine I have known since the second grade, just does not believe in selling via claims and hype, but rather lets his product stand on its own, posting only the unsolicited testimonials he gets.

One of the members of the Yahoo health group I host reported that she has used homemade silver made with one of the better known silver generator manufacturers (a mostly ionic silver solution), homemade silver made with the Utopia Silver Silver Bullet (which makes a silver solution that is appx. 75% ionic and 25% colloidal silver), and Utopia Silver Advanced Colloidal Silver (which is mostly true colloidal silver).  She reports that the Silver Bullet homemade silver gets superior results compared to the other generator but that the commercial product gets the best results of all.

When it comes to home silver generators I like the Silver Puppy, which is a quality machine and a favorite of many at CZ, and the one I personally use, the Utopia Silver Silver Bullet, which is less expensive and produces a very good product.  It does not, however, have some niceties such as an automatic stirrer or a clamshell cover and the Silver Pupply is designed to make larger batches.