Telly, give me a bit of time to retrace some of my web steps during the past 2 or 3 months. It was about that long ago that THarrels pointed me to a link to the formula for Schulze's Heart Tincture and it included the ratio of herbs. I did not have all the herbs Shulze uses in this forumula, but I had enough of them to take a stab at this. The main ingredient was Hawthorn Berry, and all the other ingredients were ( I think, but don't quote me) 1/3 less in ratio to the amount of Hawthorne, and this included Cayenne, Garlic, Ginger and the others........ I'll be back later to see if I have the formula for you.