I'm not hooking up with anyone. I consider you just as much of a Bro as him. I'm just trying to show what you guys are doing is useless. I believe some of what you say is right and the same with him. I also believe the both of you serve a purpose. You have the ability to reach Christians and that service is needed. None of us own the dog so to speak. It's just weird to open the page and see everyone talking to each other and then see you two spin off from the rest on your own little thread. Continue if you feel like you must, but it won't accomplish anything. You won't change him and he won't change you, so why? It's a waste of time and effort. You both have a goal other than this, so don't be sidetracked. That's one of satans greatest tools. I'm not saying you're satan. And it's the same for IC even though he doesn't believe in satan. It's better if the both of you stay on your goal of learning, growing and helping others instead of wasting your time on this. That's all I'm saying.