I have cleansed a few times and use the Epsom Salts first. I think this is the safest way to cleanse if you have larger stones. I followed Hulda Clark s directions and got amazing results, although that's not much help to your daughter if she is in pain. When the pain goes away, I would try a stone dissolving rather than a liver cleanse. It is slow but it will slowly dissolve the stone to where it can be safely passed without the pain.