Re: **Ideals and Freedoms Eroded Under Bush**

Nah, It's not me gobblin' lies. Not at all. I look at all things very carefully instead of focusing on only a few.
Then I corelate, look for patterns, use logic and piece things together very carefuly. I don't rely on faith either. Blind faith costs lives. I think that someone else is doing all the lie gobblin'.

Stofurz says:
"They did not murder which is a sin under the ten commandments, they killed. Just like if someone was about to attack my wife, I would have the right to kill that person. If someone even makes a threat to me or a movement that is threatening, I can act in self defense and take that person out, using the force I feel is necessary. I have to make that judgement. The person making the threat, being warned if I have time, must back away, or be responsible for the consequences. It's either that or I sit back and let what ever will be , be. Then when I'm attacked, I throw up my arms in defense I am at a disadvantage. Or, Maybe my attacker sneaks up behind me the next time. When I had the chance, in the first place to put a stop to the threat, but didn't, then I put my family and myself at risk."

Why didn't Christ defend himself? If he was showing us the way in which to conduct oneself when under attack, then your statement is false.

Stofurz says:
"George is a Christian. He confessed Jesus as Lord before the American people and on Life today, even while he was running for President."

Is this your entire arguement for George being on the up and up? So it comes down to faith vs. fact?
Actually, you too are relying on the media for your claims that George is a Christian(LOL). I however check many sources of information. Remember George is also a confessed Skull and Bones member. Remember, a Skull and Bones innitiate takes pride in deception. Action speaks louder than words and all I see under his rule is erased freedoms.

Stofurz says:
"Yes, I believe you heard Hitler was a born again christian. Why would that surprise me."

I didn't say I believed Hitler was born again. I just used that bizarre statement to demonstrate that anyone can claim anything.

Stofurz says:
"I believe many Christians are falling for the deceit of the enemy."

Me too.
I beleive some people have worked very hard to seek the truth and have been rewarded. Others have taken a more relaxed, go with the flow kind of awareness and have fallen for the deception. How sure are you that you are not one of the latter? I'm very confident in my knowledge. How confident are you in yours?

Stofurz says:
"The leftist's are smearing George and have the lies spreading like honey, ready for you to gobble up."

It's not a left, right issue. Never was. Divide and conquer. The NWO controls all sides. You don't get to play on the world stage without their approval. I thought you studied the NWO. You may want to study some more. A lot more.


If George is Americas last chance as you believe, then I beleive we are almost certainly doomed. However, I do not believe as you do. I think our individuality will prevail and we will arise to the occasion. Some of us that is.. Tweet