Finally diagnosed with lyme after 5 year illness.....started with the samento....carnivora....cumanda.....and would say they were all helping.....recently introduced to rifing machine and then referenced to rosners article on rifing....wherein he comments that rifing and antibiotic/herbal use is not a good idea.....sprirochettes sense presence of herbs/ Antibiotic and roll up into a cyst and then the rifing freq....cannot penetrate and disrupt/kill......seems to make sense.....so i have discontinued the herbs for now and am just rifing......would be interested in other comments because i thought the herbs were helping at least at some point...but would hate to think i was driving the bugs into a cyst or deeper into tissue......