ho ho hooooooooooooooooooo merry christmas everyone! if detroit made good cars, people would buy 'em. i buy cars...detroit doesn't make a good car for the money spent. parts are expensive. reliability is marginal at best. ben...oh ben...it's time to wipe the sleep out of your eyes and wake up. detroit ran itself into the ground, made horrible management and labor mistakes, and allowed honda and toyota to bust the door wide open. plain...and simple.