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Re: My son had a DPT shot reaction at 18 months. We never vaccinated again.


This is a letter I sent to the "Ford medical practice" in the UK to ensure any advice given was signed. Otherwise, as I learned, there is no proof of anything.

15TH October 2008

Subject Vaccinations

Dr Wxxxxxxs & Partners
Ford Medical Practice
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From
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Dear Dr Wxxxxxxs & Partners,

Please take this letter as written confirmation that under no circumstances should Caitlin xxxxxxxx receive any vaccine without both our signatures on the consent form. I can confirm I have joint parental responsibility under the Children’s act 1989 Section 2. I do not wish Caitlin to go ahead with any multiple vaccines and object strongly. Please record my non consent for 2 month and 3 month and any single vaccines in your medical notes. (as advised by the The Medical Protection Agency.) This should also be written on Caitlin’s medical records. I can confirm I have taken legal advice on this subject and believe the benefits and burdens of vaccination are not clear, due to my adverse reaction in 1969. For this reason, both parents consent must be given.


My partner Gill (mother of Caitlin) has signed an agreement given to us by our Health visitor for us to attend a meeting with you on the 16th October 14:00pm – 15:00pm. In the very unlikely situation there was a split opinion between Gill and I, and only one consent signature given, a multiple vaccine should only be obtained through a court order by Gill herself, and should be one that proves that the making of an order is better for our child than not making one; taking into account my medical history. (explained below) This arises under s.1(5) of the Children Act. I would hope to show there is a plausible risk to Caitlin through the possibility of a genetic predisposition and prove that the whooping cough multiple component jab should be contraindicated. If for any reason I am unable to attend that meeting, please record my Non Consent as requested above.

Vaccines decisions for Caitlin xxxxxxxx
I am sure split opinions won’t happen, as my partner and Caitlin’s mother trusts that I will research this subject thoroughly. She trusts that I will endeavour to make the best decision and assess the risk with information from as many different credible and objective sources as possible, starting with my own mother’s emotional experience.


Written advice needed for reference purposes
I also write to you today, to kindly request that this letter be filled out and signed if possible. (Only if you are to advise us that our child should be vaccinated)
Because of the importance of this subject to me, I myself shall only take written advice into account when making any decision. This letter contains details of why I think Caitlin might be at higher risk of vaccine injury than the average child and 10 questions (in case vaccination is still advised) for reference purposes.


Just to confirm.
I object strongly to Caitlin receiving any multiple vaccines. I may in the future after more research, consider certain single vaccines depending on the status of a disease in England at that time and the threat to Caitlin. I would consider each immunisation against each disease distinctly in relation to our particular child, whilst taking into account my ‘very likely’ bad reaction in 1969 and family history. There should be a serious threat from the disease in terms of consequences of the disease to Caitlin, but more importantly numbers of people likely to be affected. It’s therefore highly unlikely I would consider a single immunization if there were no reports of that disease in 2007 -2008 in the UK. An example of this would be Meningitis c. The MMR vaccine would be considered when the time arises as a separate matter.



My Family History (known)

(Should be researched, confirmed and evaluated)


History of child hood convulsions in my family on my Mums side.


Quoting the British Medical Journal on 31st August 1974, Children at risk from the whooping cough vaccine include children with existing disorders of the central nervous system, a history of convulsions, or a family history of convulsions. It would be essential for the person responsible for vaccinating Caitlin to have available and evaluate each of my family’s medical records before declaring Caitlin fit for vaccine. Before advising us to vaccinate, it would be essential that you do everything that you can to determine both the family's medical history and the probability of a predisposition to each component of that vaccine. Names of family members would be supplied upon request if needed.


1969 My Mothers experience by Andrew xxxxxxxx (Father of Caitlin xxxxxxxxx)

My Mother Margaret xxxxxxxx took me for my triple Whooping Cough Vaccine at 2 months of age. She remembers within minutes of coming out of the doctor’s surgery, I began to moan. After approximately 2 hours, this had changed to me making a strange wailing sound, with my head turning repeatedly to a strange angle. A fever soon followed, accompanied by me bringing all my bottles back up. My parents feared the worst, as I went limp, unresponsive, and breathing became very shallow.. I was rushed into hospital whereupon full details were given to the medical staff. I was described in my medical records as being in a poorly state, and that at first they thought it was a reaction to the DPT triple jab. Final diagnosis Rubella, but they state that this was for record purposes, and that the diagnosis was doubtful.

Notes: I had displayed no signs of illness in the days leading up to my Triple Jab and no health problems at all from birth. My symptoms started within minutes of having the vaccine and leaving the doctors surgery and I was rushed to hospital in the early hours of the next day. This isn’t very clear on my medical records, but is clear in my mother’s memory.

Qu 1)
Why would the Hospital Doctor choose to classify my illness as “Rubella but diagnosis doubtful”, when the most likely explanation was a reaction to the triple jab?

I broke out in a rash after a few days in hospital and my parents were told it was Rubella. I spent 9 days in hospital, before being transferred to another hospital. Total 3 weeks, but my Mother remembers me taking weeks after that to recover fully. Upon discharge, my local Doctor (DR Wodskinski) rubbished the hospital diagnosis, and her exact words were “Rubella my foot! Of course it was a reaction to the vaccine.” My mother was warned that under no circumstances was I to go ahead with any more Vaccines. (She was also advised that my brother shouldn’t have any 2 years later) These opinions and her advice were not written on my medical records and no ADR reported. My medical records are too vague for me to get any useful information from, but do report I was in a poorly state on admission to hospital with a temperature of 101 degrees. (Hours after my triple Jab) My medical notes only say, “at first we thought it was a bad reaction to his triple jab”

Doctors answer / advice / explanation : -



QU 2)
Would it be more likely that Caitlin is at risk from a particular vaccine if I had an adverse reaction to that vaccine?

Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation: -


QU 3 )
If the answer is that there is no convincing evidence or a there is a lack of research’ on this subject, would it be plausible that she could be a little more at risk from an inherited allergic reaction (based on other inherited allergies and traits passed on through genes and similar dispositions to diseases or reactions to chemicals / drugs? Could she have an inherited hypersensitivity to components of a vaccine?


Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation: -


Qu 4 )
If Caitlin had a seizure / convulsion / brain injury straight after her jab, and continued to suffer, could that just be put down to co-incidence? I.e. The evidence is inadequate to accept or reject a causal relation between a particular vaccine and a particular condition’

I am monitoring Caitlin’s progress every day on video camera, and there were no problems picked up by the midwives. We would be terribly upset if a vaccine caused a convulsion / fit / seizure /, as we would feel like we had risked her health when she wasn’t ill in the 1st place. There are many emotional stories out there of children suffering convulsions and continuing after their whooping cough vaccine, but not being able to prove that the vaccine was the cause. Its close to my heart, as I feel my medical records are wrong, just as my family doctor admitted. Neither of us are the type of people to cope with actually causing permanent illness to our child when she wasn’t ill in the 1st place and certainly not if there was a low risk of catching these diseases.

Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation: -


Qu 5 )
Would it be common sense to assume there could be more bad reactions not reported?

I am very worried about the accuracy of statistics collected for whooping cough vaccines. For example, after my vaccine, I was diagnosed as Rubella, so my illness most likely would not have been reported as an ADR through the yellow card scheme, yet it seemed obvious to my mother and to my family Doctor at that time, it was an adverse reaction. My medical records even say diagnosis doubtful for Rubella. For this reason, my confidence in the accuracy of vaccine adverse reaction statistics is low. I have spoke with several people on parent forums that have had the same experience and their child was seriously ill after the whooping cough vaccine, but it was not documented on their medical records through lack of evidence. If a child is ill straight after vaccine, it could be a coincidence, but how many coincidences are there allowed to be. Are statistics collected on these coincidences?

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QU 6)
The pamphlet says although some diseases have been eradicated, the influx of foreigners may put our child at risk. Are there any statistics to back this up?

It says ‘May’. Are there any occurrences of this happening in the UK? Are there any statistics of how many cases of diseases was passed on by people from abroad? A vaccine ‘May’ kill you could also be written, but would need to be backed up with evidence, otherwise it doesn’t actually mean a lot.

Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation : -

QU 7)
Have you any recent official statistics of injury / deaths of babies affected by the diseases here in the UK or ongoing cases? Were these children vaccinated?

I have read some of the recent statistics of deaths in UK from the diseases Caitlin would be vaccinated against. Although not official, from these statistics, I consider the risk of Caitlin actually catching these diseases to be very low, especially the diseases that have been eradicated. This assumption is based on recent Statistics of cases in the UK. Caitlin will not be travelling abroad, unless these statistics are low in that country also or at least until she has reached an age at which her immune system might cope better.

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Qu 8)
Do you think 1,071 cases of Whooping cough in England is a huge average or a small risk to Caitlin? (In terms of her actually catching it – not her health if she caught it)

I consider 1,071 cases of whooping cough out of 51.1 million people in England in 2007 to be extremely low. Deaths and brain damage figures I assume would be much lower although I have no access to statistics. If we said 1 in 50,000 suffered a bout of whooping cough in England in 2007, it’s not something I would take a chance with due to my reaction. There were no cases of Meningitis C, Diphtheria or Polio in 2007 and would class these diseases very low risk.

Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation: -


QU 9)
If the statistics of babies recently being harmed by these diseases are very low in England, and Caitlin is unlikely to travel outside that area, would you still consider it wise for us to go ahead with vaccine given my bad reaction?

Doctor’s answer / advice / explanation : -

QU 10)
Does anyone involved with giving us advice gain financially (directly or indirectly) by achieving a certain per cent of childhood vaccines? Yes/ No
It is not my intention to imply that anyone at this clinic would be persuaded to act against their judgments by such financial inducements, but were the same methods to be applied in other areas where medicines are supplied, the legality of the methods would be open to question. If this is private information, I would understand, but a ‘No’ would remove all doubt in the event it was a 50-50 i.e. risks with either decision.

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For information: - This letter was delivered by hand at approx 10:00am and also posted recorded delivery on the 15/10/2008

Witness to posting

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Liverpool


Regards Andrew xxxxxxxxxxx




I have read all 8 pages to this document and declare Caitlin fit for vaccination.


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