Re: Schulze DOES make specific reference to Kidney more on all this and me (part two)

hi, Bec,

I am a woman too, late 50's. I am sorry you misunderstood. I was kidding when I called you Mr Thomas. I was referring to your earlier comment about doubting Thomas..a story which, as a Christian, I am well aware of. I was saying, here is the data where he said NO incurable illnesses and Yes, he fixed the kidneys back to normal and got people who were on dialysis off it, so believe and conquer your doubt for saying he did not cure it for he says he did (and I certainly believe this particular man)...thus I was saying here is the data, thomas, doubt no more.

I am very concerned that you are going into a field that you do not want because of your dad's wrongful decision to force you into his dreams instead of your own. No offense. but that was very unwise of him and truly lacked insight into his role as a father and his misusing his position may come back on him to haunt him someday either in this life as some kind of karma or the next when the Lord shows him he was wrong and makes him feel all the feelings he caused you to feel.

I feel very strongly on this. My son had a friend whose father did the same thing. The boy wanted very much to be a psychologist and his dad forced him to be a business person which he hated so much. When he bulked and said no he wanted to be a psychologist, the father threatened to throw him out and not pay. foolishly, but understandably the boy say ok and went into business rather than paying himself and working harder to achieve what HE wanted. He now works in the business field and is very unhappy.


Also my sister's stepdaughter had a long talk with me about how her dad refused to send her to the college she wanted to go to for years (as he is a stanch conservative and feared apparently this more liberal college would change the viewpoint he drilled into her) and so made her go to a college she hated. she talked at length to me (as I am very understanding) of how unhappy all this made her and how she felt her dad was so wrong and she also interestingly became a liberal anyhow (lol)

Also I had a former Cambodian refugee neighbor family I began very close to. The culture was very patriarchal. Years after I left, I found out the daughter fell in love with an American, a catholic. Her father would not let her marry him, but only another Cambodian and when she refused for love of her mate, both parents disowned her. She married him anyway and it was hard when he did not talk to her two years. Now they all made up and she is happy with a child and converted to a Christian religion. The father also did the same thing to a young sister who also married an American and was disowned. Her story was not as happy as the man beat her and they later divorced but also in that case after time, the enstranged relatives started speaking again anyway. So, this, may happen down the road, if you stand up to your dad and do what you dream of, not him and even if he disowns you..this may just be temporary..stand on your own two feet becaise the long and short of it is, we are really alone in this world in the end..anyway..adn time does fix many things. If he is wiolling to lose you and that controlling, it is his loss..you will gain your won two feet and a career you dream of and less stress in life and better health..so be not be afraid to change things even now.

The important thing is it is your life and after taking the father's/family views into account, the following decision should be yours. As we grow older, the intense closeness that comes from living your lifetime with our family's--then as we grow up, it lessons some as we move on to our futures and eventually our husbands and children as this is the way God designed it when He decreed a woman will move on and cleave to her mate and leave her family. You will be working the rest of your life in a job he picked for you. I think you made and are making a mistake giving into his bullying and manipulation to try to force you to fulfill his possibly unfulfilled dreams through you.

I understand his fears..my son wanted to be an artist since he was 4 years old and going to commercial illustration from 4th grade. He was very talented. I knew the field was very competitive. I knew there is a chance maybe he could not find work, but he was supremely confident that he would be successful and his confidence helped ease my fears. Also I knew he must do what made him happy and I understood how bad it was to be unhappy like so many in our job choice as we spend the better part o our life doing it. I always encouraged my children to do that field which made them happy and my son went on to win a $16,000 full ride scholarship to art college, a full ride and the 2nd highest awarded out of 500 students, Unfortunately, an accident (he intervened when an adult was hitting a minor and a female and his hand was severely broken in trying to get the out of control man beating them up to stop) but sometimes life interferes with our dreams, but in your case, his losing HIS dream is not set in stone like his was. He couldn't do what he wanted to due to fate, but you can. Only you stops you from doing so and standing up to your dad.

Schulze often advised people to quit their jobs as so many people spend a lifetime doing something they hate and this damages their health greatly. He
talked about doing something you love with all your heart that gets you up in the morning feeling happy and blessed like he has done. Although I doubt you will, I strongly advise you look at what you would do it you could what your have the skills, aptitude, desire, and love to do and do that instead.

I will tell you this, medicine will either drain the compassion from you within 10-15 years like it has so many as people must distance themselves from their patent's suffering or they will hurt themselves from so much suffering or you will succumb to an early death or alcoholism or drugs or some escape from all the sadness and worry for other people and from the tremendous responsibility from people looking to you as their only hope.

With natural treatment, it is different as you actually can offer them hope beyond what modern Science does as you have things that work with and not against the body. Here you do not have people living a crappy lifestyle, getting ill as a result and saying here I am doctor you fix me and give me some pill or surgery so I can continue smoking, drinking, eating junk, stressing out and all the stuff I continue and love to do.

No, with natural treatment, a person comes to you as an educator not a savior, as here they fix themselves with your guidance. Here there take the responsibility on themselves for healing themselves and building the lifestyle that there body can self repair in as the bodies were designed by god to self repair (if we do not work against that by taking dangerous drugs, procedures, eating crap and having harmful habits..all we need to do is stop doing what hurts our bodies and start doing what helps them and believing in God and his healing substances to cure us. Here the practitioner is happy as they know they are teaching lifelong habits that are good and they can in fact see successes where doctors have only seen failures (the desperate cases they have not the mean to cures but only prolong often at the cost of seeing the patient get sicker, suffer, and decline in and at a reduced quality of life.

So I predict this field you are going into with change you, by necessity, in ways that I feel are not good for you. Him spending 180 grand shows the comparative cheapness of natural cures which is so much less. He needs to put his money where it will do him the most good and I personally feel that is here or I would not have wasted my time.

Although I do not really look for it to happen, I hope while you still have time, you change your mind about your career choice,.,the fact you almost cried when you passed the test to get in and how your dad manipulated you, tells me you are not doing the right thing even though I understand why you did it and how reconciling with your dad feels better than if you did what was best for you.

My child has a 167 IQ and cause he is so smart, his teacher's in elementary school were always telling him he must be doctor when he grew up. In this case, I strongly advised him not to become a doctor on the grounds, he would be on call all the time and devoting all his life to a job was not healthy or fair to a future family. I also talked about money not being the important thing in life and he changed his mind and went into a field he loved, computers (my other son)

The fact that you take on responsibility that is not yours, tells me this field will wrench at your heart as many patients will not comply, will not listen, will not get better and will not be helped with what medical Science and drugs and that you are permitted to use by the ama and fda and your feeling responsible will make you one of the unhappy doctors or else you will learn to distance yourself and close part of your big heart..both routes have been taken by many doctors..a few like my doctors somehow manage to practice alternative medicine a lot despite their allopathic degree but this could be chancy if the man comes aware of it. Now that doctor truly helps people someday successfully combining both worlds but going first and foremost to alternative health and using drugs cautiously and as a last resort. the person is so smart and a brilliant and extremely unique doctor of the future.

The man, you said you will refer here has already made a decision to follow alternative health long before you questioned into why and he confided to you. It is something HE wants..it did not before nor does it NOW hinge on you for its approval nor its outcome. He took the responsibility for his health and that is where it is,,,not on you. Referring him to the great additional advice on this forum is only enhancing the chance of his recovery down the path he has chosen not you. You are just helping him do it even better by sharing this link.

I, too, am a person of high compassion who hates to see people suffering..that is one reason I devote a huge part of my life..unpaid--to helping them by sharing what I know, but the responsibility lies with them on what to do, I have a tendency to blame myself if I don't have the knowledge like I blamed myself when my dad died of lung cancer, a completely incurable disease then and mostly still, as I did not have this knowledge though I tried to find it. I know now that I was wrong to place that additional burden on myself for I tried with all my heart. I just did not have the knowledge..but you do..maybe god has brought you here to help this guy..we assist but god heals and he does it in various way..sometimes through medical science, sometimes through the sun, wind, water, foods, herbs, love, the power of the mind, sometimes through ways we cannot understand but you (and me too sometimes) need to understand that and see sometimes our power and control is inadequate for we were not given all the power and all the control that is not rightfully ours. For some of us (even your dad, you, and I) take longer to learn this lesson. We cannot or should not always change things to meet what we want..nor can we meet every desire. But we can learn to trust ourselves and God more.

Sharing this link or supporting this man in any way not approved by the powers that b at your school or the AMA-- is not your responsibility if something goes wrong. It is up to him not you to find out more onnce he gets here. If he wants to contact me I will work further with him on ways he might do things financially. I lived far below poverty and did the incurables somehow and so can he.

Schulze addresses the toxicity question on juniper berries in his manual and the man need to watch the videos and get the manual. I feel personally this is required as the first all important step. I cannot reproduce the whole manual here. In it are all the proportions of herbs he needs on the formulas schulze recommends and the guy can email me and I will say more. As it is I am trying to move to a new house and answering your (It felt like attacks) took a huge amount of my time as did doing all things I wrote on here and helping people privately and now I am harming my own health from stress as my moving date is coming and I have little done. I need to back off the computer for a while and can not answer all the questions you posed.

Much of how much to take of things like parsley root and such is already posted how to take it and how much.

If he cannot afford to do the incurables program, then he should do dialysis as the juices and herbs are not enough to fix him..period.

Even if the responsibility fell on me (and I do take it very serious what I advise but I am not schulze remember that) even if it did fall on me or on you, if he does not do it exactly as I outlined and that is ALL of it--incurables..every single part together and all the steps with the possible exceptions off the things I mentioned in the first post before step number one, NOT PICKING AND CHoOSING SOME AND NOT OTHER PART WHICH IS BAD AND UNWISE IMO)then that is a foolish chance the patient themselves takes.

Although it may cure them (picking and choosing some and not all) without it all the chance is reduced. The incurables is THE most essential part of it all imo.
I thought YOU said already he was doing the incurables. Now you say he is doing this other stuff posted on a link he does not even have and not doing the incurables. I hope all this is not just some game.

I lived in the bottom half of the poverty line and I did the incurables program and other stuff too and so can he is he wants it bad enough.as schulze says sell your car, sell your tv, have a bake sale or a garage sale and somehow get the money..but do not skimp on your own health..where there is a will there is a way..schulze himself drove his junky car to calif to train under Dr Christopher and sold his car when he got there to pay the tuition. Unbenowst to Dr Christopher, he lived in Christopher's garden as he was now completely penniless and he took some of the produce from the garden to survive and fertilized the plants as a bathroom..he did what he needed to do and so can this guy..again this is not your responsibility, Bec.

It is his..if you want to help him buy some of the stuff he needs or give it to him as a present or find someone the guy can trade a service to to make some extra money. Help him out if you are worried about his poverty. Point him to websites which give suggestions on how to make a little extra money. Leave him an anonymous gift or send him money anonymously in the mail and say it is to buy herbs or buy the herbs and leave them on his doorstep with no name. You can find a way that is safe if you want to bad enough,.

also if you cannot trust this guy to keep you sharing this link with him, do that anonymously or do not do it at all without trusting he will keep your confidence.

I don't know if you realize how odd it sounds that you don't have a problem with doing dialysis for your patients that increases heart attacks 30 times, can cause blindness, severe blood pressure drops that hospitalize you dropping blood pressure to the 30s etc but are questioning if given 5 grams or 6 of juniper tea will hurt the guy..if eating too much parsley or parsley root (a food) or drinking too much peppermint tea is gonna hurt him..this is crazy. We are a lot tougher than you think.

People who are ok drinking booze everyday or a 6 pack, eating micky d's 5 times a week, eating tons of cheesecake and drinking pop till it comes out their ears, who practice unsafe sex and stress themselves to death, hating everyone and fearful of all things, smoking pot and breathing in second hand smoke, taking in dangerous radiation and taking 8 drugs at once and with cabinets full of a over the counter meds for every little thing who are then worried about drinking parsley tea or spearmint or taking a few grams of juniper tea too much, why-- cause a doctor who know so f..king little about natural treatments and herbs anyhow said it is bad.

cmom the crap the patient does, the horrendous treatments the doctor gives, the dangerous diagnostic tests are the bad guys not the sunshine, good water, good air, good foods, good herbs that God made for our use as all creation was given as a gift to man..as a christian, you need to remember God cannot lie and he said he will answer our prayers, take care of us and the he gives us "plants for our food and herbs for our mediine" If you have problems with the stuff he made for us then take it up with him did you forget, Bec, cast your cares on him for he cares for you..you are worrying excessively and this is not what Gos tells us to do..he says pray without ceasing with thanksgiving and let your request be made known to him. Why do you question the one thing that does the body good but are gine with all the things he does that do the body bad..that is odd.

I suggest you go to your knees since you are a christian and talk to god about your career choice what his will is for you not your not your dads and also about this man and about the herbs god made..and if you truly love suffering people like you say you do, then share the link with the guy and then let him make his own decisions. He can contact me for further help but I am moving and may not be here for a while but eventually I will get back with him..all he needs I have already written primarily,,he needs to contact me on the manual and save your life videos.

He needs to do it not you for it is his life and if he cannot take responsibility to heal himself fully, it is unlikely to work..since he expressed he is doing the incurables this link is in his favor to further assist him, but if he is not doing the incurables then forget all this advise and do dialysis instead as the incurables and everything in it is the cornerstone and the foundation to the whole thing..understand? Picking and choosing is not good..period..if you are going to gamble and bet on a good thing, do all or nothing.,..not just some herbs or tea or the saunas or the garlic but all or nothing..and definitely if just doing on thing, make it the incurables, but recognize in the clinic, schulze give specific herbs for the specific problem too..like cayenne and Hawthorne if they had heart problems, nervines if they have ms, parsley root if they had kidneys, cancer herbs if they had cancer, lung herbs if they had lung cancer and so forth,

Sometimes a person can aid themselves by just doing some of it and something they need to listen to their bodies and back off a bit when necessary (but do be aware that sometimes you feel better before you feel worst), biut to abvoid dialysis and restore your kidney to working again, you need to do it all..every part is there for a reason and it all works together ok

I hope this message did not sound too harsh but I feel I needed to share this with you. ok so please don't take it the wrong way..I am also stressed with typing so much when I need to be packing right now as this has to be done when overs arrive as I have already put in a notice that I am moving so time is not waiting for me.

knowledge seeker

ps --if by chance this person or any of the others contacting me is not who they say they are, but using various aliases..please move on to another victim (if this does not apply to you, please disregard)








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