I have been on the "famous tonic" for I believe 7 weeks. Lots of ups and downs, but I feel that it is a slow progression forward.The tonic is definitely not a quick fix. Digestion is better, not perfect. Pain in right shoulder is very sporatic instead of constant. Sleep is SO much better, especially if I don't have a real heavy evening meal. Constipation is allot better. These changes are more on the subtle side, not a big WOW, but I will take them. I am grateful to have some pretty good days and not feeling like I am going down the tubes. I have a new appreciation and respect for herbs and really enjoy learning about their healing properties. They are amazing! I am glad I have someone to guide me through this process. I am very grateful for what I have learned from Charlie, it has been a very enjoyable experiance for me,for the most part. I am trying to be very fair here, and tell it like I see it.Just the fact that I have been off of supplements for that long is pretty amazing. Lots more upside to this than down, IMHO. Linda